The Warden V1.0.0.5 Bleed/Phys/Trauma, Good Beginners Build!

Grim Dawn Classes, Skills and Builds
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Hello everyone, and welcome to my guide on the Bleed Warder

This build has cleared all of Ultimate, BoC and even SoT on ultimate difficulty. It has done everything so far, except the Mad Queen, The Avatar and Nemesis bosses, i haven’t attempted it yet, but I’m pretty sure i can do them.

This build is designed to be a good starter build, easy to gear, and easy to play, if you are a veteran player or looking for an OP GG build with tons of shinies, this is probably not for you :slight_smile:

If not, keep on reading!

Pros and Cons

Pros:
Easy to play
Beginner friendly
Doesn’t require a lot of gear
Tanky

Cons
Somewhat dependent on procs
Not the highest possible DPS for a warder
Bleed based, lower damage against Skeletons/Ghosts/Undeads

Active Skills and Devotions with explanation
Skill tree link, using grim calc: http://grimcalc.com/build/aSepsM4

Savagery: Our main attack, bleed proc and also some added OA and DA, spam this when everything else is on CD. We have “Falcon Swoop” added to this, since we spam it when everything else is on CD, we can get a lot of nice procs going from it, which does a good amount of damage.

Devouring Swarm: This adds a bleed dot, and also decreases the enemies resistance to bleed for the duration. We also use it to proc rend, our devotion ability, which adds a bleed dot and a resistance debuff. Please note that rend can proc off of the dot ticks aswell as the initial hit, making this ability amazing to proc rend on entire packs of monsters!

Blitz: Movement skills, charge in and go nuts, pretty self explanatory.

Blade Arc: This is our second DPS ability on a short CD, massive amounts of bleed and physical damage with some added Internal Trauma damage, use this all the time on packs and single target! We have cleansing waters to this because its a 100% chance on hit, so it always procs when we blade arc.

Wendigo Totem: This we put down at the start of our fight to get the healing going, this is mainly for healing, and a little bit of Vitality damage.

Gear, augments and components

First of all i want to say that NONE of the gear is mandatory for this build! But theres a few items that is VERY helpful for this build, however they are quite easy to get and not very rare.

Generally you want to try and max your resist when you reach ultimate, and try to balance your defense and offense. Don’t go too tanky, but also don’t go too squishy.

This axe is the first thing you should try and get, the physical damage is not the best, but the bleed damage is amazing on this one, BiS for this build.
For the component, theres two options:

You can either go Hollowed Fang, this will decrease your overall damage, but increase your life leech by a lot, only use this if you struggle to stay alive.

And the component i recommend: Severed Claw. It grants you extra physical damage and it gives you an ability called “Brutal Slam”. Its a good single target ability with a very short CD that you can help to get those bosses down a little faster.

For the augment, use the bleed/phys augment “Potent Olerons Fervor” (requires revered with Black Legion)

Pretty self explanatory belt, lots of damage and +1 all shaman and +2 Feral Hunger.

Good shoulders, bleed damage, some resist, some OA.

These gloves are very easy to obtain, but i think they are probably the best you can get, mainly for the good bleed proc that they give you.

Other than these few items, go with whatever you get, anything with bleed/phys damage or resist on it is good.

Augments for gear

I recommend going with the chaos/vitality augments on all your gear, unless you got amulet/rings/medal with it on, they require revered with Kymon’s Chosen to buy.

Levelling

Levelling is very easy and smooth, start soldier and go for blade arc, max it but don’t transmute it before level 35-40. Use it as your main attacks with a 2h weapon. Take Shaman at level 10 and get savagery and the passive.

When your about to start Elite you should have a decent 2h physical weapon, blade arc with laceration, you should have maxed shaman mastery and gotten Primal Bonds.

At the end of elite, you start taking devouring swarm, at elite the resist debuff really doesn’t matter too much, but on ultimate, monsters have a lot more resist. Max devouring swarm and your passives along the way, if you have the Guillotine, use that as well.

Overall its really easy and smooth sailing all trough normal/veteran/elite. I suggest you farm a bit of elite and get gear with resist up before going ultimate. I went to elite at level 45, and to ultimate at level 73 (i farmed a lot of elite before going to ultimate) but i did complete Elite at lvl 64.

Lets wrap up this short guide, hopefully it will help someone out, if you have any questions and or suggestions, feel free to post them!

Best regards \TheZwoop

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Apparently I’m currently getting an error when trying to insert images to the post, I’m working on a fix!

EDIT: Pictures now in post <3

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Not a bad build. Been waiting for someone to post a Bleeding Warder. I have a couple of questions/suggestions as I have a bleeding/IT/physical warder myself…

Have you tried a Bloody Whetstone as the component on your weapon? I think you’ll find you’ll like that much better than the severed claw… If you’re going for live steal, haunted steal might be a little better than the hollowed fang…

From your grimcalc, you have 10/10 in things like feral hunger, heart of the wild and military conditioning. How many + skills do you have? Typically those are poor skills to over cap. you’re already point starved with the build, it would be better spent else where… FH is good, but once the % proc is maxed, the rest doesn’t scale that well.

I personally like upheaval, but it will make FH, ZT and MA all less effective. You only have 1 point in each of the last two anyways. Would more way more effective in other skills…

your OA is a bit low. One thing with bleed builds for a warder is working on big crits with BA, but you need much higher OA. have you tried adding more points to tendency of the boar to up the OA. Storm touch for the AS will help you swing more and add more procs too… Fighting spirit is another nice way to bump your OA, but the CD is a bit long…

Did you try the Oleron constellation? You’ll have to give up some of your defensive constellations, but it is awesome!!! Wendigo’s Total and Menhir’s Will usually do pretty well at keeping you alive…

The proc on the brawler gloves is awesome!! I used them for a long time, but the AS on Grasps of Unchained Might is amazing! But I would say the Brawler gloves are second best and MUCH easier to get…

If you can find a vileblood mantle, it will help make those skeletons/obsidian mobs MUCH easier as it offer - bleed resist!! Throw in a black star of Deceit (-resists) and their not much of an issue at all…

The belt is probably BIS as well, Guthook is nice! The reforged chains of Oleron are pretty decent too if you can’t get the guthook.

One item you can get, and is also probably BiS is the Eldritch Gaze. The Sentinel will drop the BP only on Ultimate, but it is awesome for bleed builds even if you can’t use the + skills… I farmed him with my bleeding/IT/physical warder and only had issues when he spawned a crazy weapon… Took 42 kills to get the helm BP, but it is worth it!!!

What relic are you using? Doesn’t look like the Oleron’s Wrath… That is a really nice relic for bleed builds and will help your AoE…

oh, the mad queen is a little tricky but as long as you stay away from the pink mist you should be good! The bleed DoTs are nice to deal damage as you run away… I’ve been killed by here and then go back to finish her off only to have her die from the DoT’s when I return…

good luck!

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Hello there, sorry for the late reply!

About the whetstones, yes they would be much much better, but they are only for 1h axes sadly :frowning: does not work with 2h axes.

Yea i have +2 +2 Soldier/Shaman with my gear on at this moment, and i have been thinking of dropping more points from Feral Hunger, and get more points elsewhere. Upheavel is performing better then i expected, so it might be worth it to have it at max with bonusses from gear. (Not overcapping it)

Maxing the second line of savagery is good for the OA, yes :slight_smile:

My OA is kinda low yea, and its mostly because i wanted to be tanky, my devotions are kind of tanky aswell, but it gets the job done. With some gear upgdrades i can probably push 2k+ without buffs. My boots and legs are kinda bad. Aswell as jewels.

I thought about the Olerons Constellation, but i don’t think its worth it because its mainly for IT damage, and the only IT we do is from Blade Arc.

The relic is gonna be an “Olererons Wrath” but i havent got the materials for it yet :slight_smile:

Overall, dropping some defense, and going more offensive is definetly an option to push that lategame !

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Yes, “blessed” whetstones are 1H axes only…but “Bloody” whetstones can be put on 2H axes…

Yea i have +2 +2 Soldier/Shaman with my gear on at this moment, and i have been thinking of dropping more points from Feral Hunger, and get more points elsewhere. Upheavel is performing better then i expected, so it might be worth it to have it at max with bonusses from gear. (Not overcapping it)

Upheaval should help slightly with AoE which usually is lacking in a bleed build…It is also good to bind Oleron’s fury too as they both proc on crits…

Maxing the second line of savagery is good for the OA, yes :slight_smile:

It is a higher than using Field tactics…plus increases HP regen which is typically a bit better than increased % armor. (as long as you have a savagery charge…)

My OA is kinda low yea, and its mostly because i wanted to be tanky, my devotions are kind of tanky aswell, but it gets the job done. With some gear upgdrades i can probably push 2k+ without buffs. My boots and legs are kinda bad. Aswell as jewels.

OA will help with bigger bleed ticks…BA can get some massive crits if you have the OA to support it…

I thought about the Olerons Constellation, but i don’t think its worth it because its mainly for IT damage, and the only IT we do is from Blade Arc.

ZT, Blindside and Laceration all have IT. Some gear will have it too…it also resists vs physical so helps versus high bleed resist mobs. But besides the IT, Oleron’s Fury (if you have the OA to crit…)is awesome for more AoE (again typically lacking in these builds). It also adds a nice bleed, slows mobs and lowers armor (lower armor is almost worthless so not that big of a deal). The rest of the constellation helps boost all three damage types you list your build does… Try it out, can always respect it if it doesn’t work… I picked up Bull Rush working up the order to get it…and that also has a lot of IT…

The relic is gonna be an “Olererons Wrath” but i havent got the materials for it yet :slight_smile:

Defiantly the best for this build…

Overall, dropping some defense, and going more offensive is definetly an option to push that lategame !

That’s always the balance… keep yourself alive first, then work on killing quicker…

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Hm? Blessed Whestones work in both single and two handed axes/swords. :confused:

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Zantai to the rescue!

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lol, whoop… Yeah, I haven’t really used them so just took OP’s word for it as I was saying use the blood whetstones anyways…

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Nice guide so far.

But I am also curious how Scotes build is actually looking. Could u show ur grimcalc pls?

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BUMP

Any chance Scote that u can post your grimcalc? Or Zwooper, how is your build looking atm? Did u try that Oleron Wrath devotion?

I am really tinkering for a devotion build, that includes Olerons Wrath. But I really have problems getting enough Ascendant Points. Trying to maintain Kraken and Huntress. Buth either way I have to take something silly like Owl or Harpy just for getting Ascendant points :frowning:

greetz

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Can you post a Grim Calc with your devotions?

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Sure,

just edited the devotions from the starting build:

http://grimcalc.com/build/er28jio

But like I said, its somehow unsatisfying imo.

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I would get Harpy instead of Owl. Not that much of a difference but the bonuses in the Harpy are better for this build.

Why Bull though? The stats in the nodes seem to be really underwhelming. And is Bull Rush any good?

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This is my physical Warden devotion setup. Using 2h mace Leviathan.
http://grimcalc.com/build/SRtyV2K

Maybe you will find it interesting. One point is free to distribute.

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Yeah, Harpy is a bit better, thats right. Dunno with the Bull Rush either, I am pretty much a beginner, never used that Devotion before, just wanted to get the Points :slight_smile:

My problem is, that I cant use the Rhowans Scepter when I play with the Guillotine.

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um…interesting, however somehow difference presents…

Zwooper’s weapon is actually a 2H axe so that he could make good use of berserker, OA, % bleeding damage, piercing res, % damage to health and % cri dam.

Your BD is phy and the weapon is 2H mace, which makes Berserker less relevant…anyway thanks for sharing, could be my reference when I start to build my phy WB!

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I’m curious. Don’t have any experience with physical builds but is olerons fury really worth losing assassin’s mark? A 30% reduction to physical seems huge to me.

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Assuming your aoe isn’t garbage I’d rather have the mark, but you can get both fairly easily so it’s a bit of a mute point

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Get or use without dropping falcon swoop?

I mean I guess that I could use oleron on something other than savagry. But being on crit I would prefer it on a spamable skill. Idk