This build kinda summarizes what I think would be the go to crucible build for a while. It’s either stack dots and kite or unleash nukes and kite, while having enough defense to withstand the pummeling for a few seconds while getting out of the crowd and maybe facetank a bit, especially in 160 and 170. This build just does both.
I played until 2 days ago with tank spellscourge battle mage. At wave 160 i had to kite 2x kupacbra and valdaran for 5 minutes because blood pools were healing all of them. Even with lvl22x perma overguard menhir maivens and 4 blessings i could not tank at all. So unless i am doing smth wrong i am guessing they toned kupa down. I also fail to see how dw pure melee can do it or 2h pure melee. I sas unable to do it with markovian commando. Scourge worked cause of devastation and kiting. Again, maybe they toned it down.
@ ptiro i grave feedback on fumble and cc regarding melee. Idk if they did something. Also before 0.6 vanilla caster was underdog and melee god. Now it is reverse. So balance doesn not mean gimp casters. Just don t overlook melee.
They toned down Chuppa, Grava and Raper(rapist?) for sure, cause non of them are dangerous. On the other hand Alexander kick ass and put a lot of pressure. Surprisingly Moo is aslo dangerous.
Yes, Fumble was the main reason why i gave up playing melee or ranged builds. You simply cannot counter that shit, and it dumpsters your DPS into the void. It was even before Ashen Crucible. Now, it’s clear as day that melee/ranged dont stand a chance VS casters, when Fumble gets into the plsy.
Reaper?
Glad to gest it because the mass heal was unreal. Alex is allways on ur ass indeed. Yet i kinda like this nemesis concept.
Assuming your build is tip-top BIS gear Grava is only dangerous in campaign because he cheats- nullify is an out of context ability that has no place in an ARPG.
Brb deleting all of my arcanist builds out of shame
I did not say all builds. I said all reasonable builds.
I disagree. There is a place for it, like with Loxmere. The difference with Grava is that they coupled it with a massive nuke that can only be partially resisted by things that the nullify removes - before nuking you. That’s just a very cheap shot.
you’re the protagonist it’s ok 
i think it’s exacerbated in Grim Dawn because this is the most buff-dependent game i’ve ever seen. You have toons going from 29k to 90k dps just on buffs, along with more hp, armor, absorb, resists etc etc. Grim Dawn = buffs.
It’s great!
Did 170 glad with a friend, I got 5 legs, he got 4. Totally worth it!
/cheers
Its basically impossible for 97% of melee builds to solo even with buffs/banners. Take my conjour that i was trying to do it with for example. 2k armor 31% phys resist and 3500 oa / 3600+ da with buffs, ~20k hp, 22% damage absorb, 27% AdctH(also has -13% life leech resist), and a 15% damage dealt debuff on enemies…while getting healed by wendigo totem anddddd still getting killed. :rolleyes::rolleyes: Even though i can basically fall asleep at the keyboard in campaign and still kill everything…
Also was able to no banner no buff 150’s without any problems. Now somehow I was killed at 149 by sharzhul with banners up, as I had to reset to the 140 checkpoint for failing at 160.
It would seem mobs have received a buff to OA?
Attaching two screenshots… One was right after dying in crucible I started a main campaign game… the other in ult BoC. I know I have more DA in the second screenshot, but that seems to be a huge difference… Even Ravager doesnt have that much OA.
This ^^^^
Movespeed and slow resistance is a must. You simply cannot just stand and fight all the time, you need to move, hide behind a cover and deal with creeps one on one. Or you die even with shield build.
I meet 2 Kubracabra and iron maiden and some more nemesis boss on wave 160 in gladiator and yes when 2 Kubracabra only left cant kill boths them heal each another.
I make a new try and do it with extra spawn and no 2 Kubracabra
I was hoping get achivimenst for it 
Given how deadly waves 151-170 are and that surviving them requires buffs and banners and that longer clear times require re-acquiring the buffs mid run, I often find the 100 tribute point cap to be too low. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’d like to see perhaps a 120 tribute cap.
Um, it’s 55.
ah come on you know what he means. He is talking about the crucible after all.
Fuck this - yet another try on my BiS commando and on 160 got Valdy, Rapist and Kuba + the always there tree fuck.
Kuba heals all like nuts, if you try to split them and take out one of them i get immediately ported in the middle of the pack (of course) and got instagibbed by the Reaper while the rest were ganbanging me as well…
I will keep farming till 150 until Crate unavoidebly will Balance this mess - Kuba heals need to be cut to 1/3, Repaer dmg output at 30% reduced, Alex CD on meteors+dmg cut in half, all attacks that do Fumble get reduced in duration and impact like with a lot.
There is zero challenge atm in Crucible just pure masochism and pointless loss of time after wave 150 due to lack of tools given to players to handle all the stupidly designed “skills” of the mobs/bosses.
Sorry, I meant tributes.