[Tool] GD Stash

Syn · May 13, 2016, 2:39am

Hi again Mamba. Are you also saying that the character details page - the one that displays name, sex, experience, gold, attribute points, etc will not work correctly for a character that is playing Grimmer, Grimmest? Updating attribute points within GD Stash, for instance, will not take effect when a new game session is opened?

Thanks, bud!

Syn

mamba · May 13, 2016, 7:47am

There currently are two issues with it for mod-chars

the tool will not show them at all in the drop-down as they are not in the dir it is checking (it only checks save/main for chars so far)
the page is hard coded, eg the rifts and shrines are not really taken from the database.arz (and right now I would not know how to do that either, as I do not know where to find the GUID that identifies them in the save file in the database.arz)

The latter is only a problem for total conversion mods or ones that add areas to the vanilla game, so not for Grimmest

The former is what is keeping you from loading them. If they were loaded, you could use them fully however (right now the only way would be to copy them to save/main, so they ‘become visible’ to the tool)

If anyone knows where to find the GUIDs that identify shrines and rifts, let me know

Syn · May 13, 2016, 7:54am

Is there any reason why I would not want to copy my character (I only have 1) to save/main?

Bearing in mind how inexperience and lacking in confidence I am regarding changing files and essentially actioning any tasks of this nature, do you think it may be in my best interests to hold off from playing Grimmer, Grimmest till this process becomes easier/more accessible?

Thanks, Mamba!

Syn

mamba · May 13, 2016, 8:09am

not really, you just have to keep copying it back and forth as GD Stash only looks in save/main for now while GD only uses mod chars from save/user I believe

Bearing in mind how inexperience and lacking in confidence I am regarding changing files and essentially actioning any tasks of this nature, do you think it may be in my best interests to hold off from playing Grimmer, Grimmest till this process becomes easier/more accessible?

only you can answer that, but the new release will not be very soon. You could also just ignore the char for now and just use the mod stash.
If you want to change the char frequently and are uncomfortable with cooying its dir around it might be better to wait - or overcome that fear as there really is nothing to worry about, it is just like copying any other files around You cannot ruin your main char by doing so, at most you can forget copying it in and not see it or moving it back and not see the changes you made, either one is easily addressed, just make sure you move it back right after changing it / before playing it again as otherwise you will either lose those changes (and have to make them again, which should be easy) or the progress you made

EDIT: actually the tool looks for the chars relative to where the stash is, ie a main subdir of the dir you specified for the save dir, so you will not even copy the mod char to where the main campaign ones are, so no risk messing those up at all, you still will need to do the copying however

Syn · May 13, 2016, 8:20am

mamba:

not really, you just have to keep copying it back and forth as GD Stash only looks in save/main for now while GD only uses mod chars from save/user I believe

only you can answer that, but the new release will not be very soon. You could also just ignore the char for now and just use the mod stash.
If you want to change the char frequently and are uncomfortable with cooying its dir around it might be better to wait - or overcome that fear as there really is nothing to worry about, it is just like copying any other files around You cannot ruin your main char by doing so, at most you can forget copying it in and not see it or moving it back and not see the changes you made, either one is easily addressed, just make sure you move it back right after changing it / before playing it again as otherwise you will either lose those changes (and have to make them again, which should be easy) or the progress you made

OK, so let’s say I endeavour to play Grimmer, Grimmest tonight with GD Stash. Can you please let me know what steps I need to take in order to set it up correctly. I’ll start the step by step off…

Download 2nd instance of GD Stash.

(This is where you pitch in, Mamba ;))

Where do I point the installation, save game and ARZ extraction directories to?

Let’s say I will, for the time being, exclusively be playing the Grimmer, Grimmest character and will not be interacting with the Vanilla character. Do I still need to do this chop and change you refer to?

Again, I really appreciate your help with this. I really want to play Grimmer, Grimmest but I also really want to continue using your amazing tool!

Thanks, bud!

Syn

mamba · May 13, 2016, 9:14am

Create a new dir, place the zip file in it and extract it
[li]Run the tool to set it up[/li][LIST]
Installation dir: same as for vanilla, i.e. C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Grim Dawn (as none of the mod’s database.arz changes are relevant for the tool, this is the easiest way)
Save game dir: My Games\Grim Dawn\save\grimmest
ARZ extraction dir: not relevant, leave it blank

[li]Save config[/li]
[li]Import database[/li][/LIST]

This should get you setup and allow you to see the mod stash

If you want to change the mod char you will need to copy it back and forth between My Games\Grim Dawn\save\grimmest\main (you will have to create the main subdir first) to change it and My Games\Grim Dawn\save\user to play it - until I actually add some level of mod support to the tool

Syn · May 13, 2016, 9:22am

mamba:

Create a new dir, place the zip file in it and extract it
[li]Run the tool to set it up[/li][LIST]

Installation dir: same as for vanilla, i.e. C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Grim Dawn (as none of the mod’s database.arz changes are relevant for the tool, this is the easiest way)

Save game dir: My Games\Grim Dawn\save\grimmest

ARZ extraction dir: not relevant, leave it blank

[li]Save config[/li]
[li]Import database[/li][/LIST]

This should get you setup and allow you to see the mod stash

If you want to change the mod char you will need to copy it back and forth between My Games\Grim Dawn\save\grimmest\main (you will have to create the main subdir first) to change it and My Games\Grim Dawn\save\user to play it - until I actually add some level of mod support to the tool

Thank you so much for providing that information, Mamba. I have always and continue to seriously appreciate your incredibly positive influence and contributions to these forums.

Cheers, mate!

Syn

adoomgod · May 13, 2016, 11:12am

mamba:

Been thinking about that recently, it is not as easy to fully support, but there are some low hanging fruits

Turning a stash into a mod stash is very simple, but of course this also means you have standard items only

Turning a mod stash into a standard stash is just as simple, but that means you lose all mod specific items / affixes

Where it becomes complicated is when you want to support a mod past that level. For mod specific items, affixes etc. I would have to import its database.arz. I would also have to distinguish between the vanilla one and a mod-specific one as you do not want to lose the stored vanilla items just because you loaded a mod database.arz.

I am not sure this could be fully done even if I wanted to (which I do not…), would have to check if the char knows which mod it belongs to, like the stash does.

The final level then would be the char edit screen where rift gates, shrines and factions are hard coded rather than taken from the database.arz. Most of the data is in there as well, I just did not use it… the shrines and rifts are identified by a GUID, that I have not found anywhere yet, I assume it exists somewhere too though

For now, the easiest solution is to use a vanilla char, craft the items, store them in the char inventory and then copy the char to the mod folder.
Of course that allows only for vanilla items, but so do the ‘low hanging fruit’.

You could install a second copy of GD Stash to import your mod database.arz, thereby avoiding the above issue with already stored vanilla items, and can then also craft items of your mod.
To transfer them, copy the char to the user dir, as mentioned.

That should work ok until I actually add any kind of mod support.

EDIT: you should already be able to load the mod stash and craft into it directly when you change the save dir to the one your mod stash is in

Yup I figured that out before I read it but I should respond. I can craft into mod stashes. Super helpful. This will help me and ceno a good deal in the future.

Syn · May 13, 2016, 11:22pm

Hi Mamba,

Whether it’s through GD stash or the deletion of a file - do you know of a way to wipe the games data of all the blueprints that I have collected?

With the start of this new character, I wanted to begin with a completely clean slate. I deleted all the items that GD stash had compiled but I noticed when checking the Devils Crossing Quartermaster that the game recognised me as having previously purchased the Gunslingers Talisman. Consequently, I assume that all my previously collected Blueprints will still be stored.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated, champ.

Cheers!

Syn

mamba · May 14, 2016, 12:04am

Delete the formulas.gst / gsh files in the save dir

Syn · May 14, 2016, 4:23am

Thanks, Mamba!

This can be done with a game session open, yes? Similar to backing up a save folder - the deletion of the formulas will be reflected in game in real time?

Cheers!

Syn

mamba · May 14, 2016, 7:47am

No idea, it is easy to find out though. Worst case it gets recreated and you need to delete it again while not playing GD

Syn · May 14, 2016, 9:04am

Fair enough.

Thanks, mate!

Syn

Alkamyst · May 15, 2016, 4:47pm

I apologize if this has been answered already, but I didn’t feel like sorting through 100+ pages of replies. But every time I try to import the database, I always get this error. What am I doing wrong?

system · May 15, 2016, 7:18pm

Love the Tool, wondering if its easy to display one shot chests like shrines for easy tracking ?

Syn · May 15, 2016, 7:46pm

I would really like to see this implemented, as well.

I am not aware as to how many one-shot chests there now are in Grim Dawn and it would be a huge quality of life improvement to see a list with checkbox’s - similar to the Rift Portal lists, that get ticked each time the player opens a one-shot chest.

Is this functionality possible, Mamba?

Cheers, bud!

Syn

mamba · May 15, 2016, 7:49pm

reading the included documentation (config) or FAQ would also answer that

But every time I try to import the database, I always get this error. What am I doing wrong?

you probably are using a 32bit JVM, if you are, switch to 64bit. If you already use a 64bit VM, see the documentation on how to increase the heap size.

If you are on a 32bit Windows and therefore cannot use a 64bit VM, get the compiled Windows executable instead

mamba · May 15, 2016, 7:50pm

they are not stored in the save file as far as I know (maybe in the map data ?), so no, it is not easy

Eminanza · May 15, 2016, 8:18pm

This is probably something stupid but I can not manage to make it work.
I did the whole config, pointing to the good directories, using Java 64bits and I still got an issue when trying to interact with the app.
I could give more details but just to begin, did someone experience this kind of error screen before ?

mamba · May 15, 2016, 8:23pm

You never imported the GD data (button ‘Import database’ on the Config page).