Hi all. I’ve been playing around with upheaval some and noticed a few interesting things when using fire strike. Might be old news, but new to me
Firstly, upheaval will not proc from skill modifiers such as explosive strike. You have to hit directly with the projectile to proc Upheaval. So this got me wondering what would happen if Fire Strike, or Savagery, could pierce.
Second Observation - If Fire Strike pierces, then Upheaval can proc after the initial pierce. I did this by using the Ugdenbog Arcaneweaver. It gives a 50% chance to pierce to Fire Strike.
Third Observation - It pierces way more than 50%. It’s more like 100%. However, Fire Strike could not pierce aether crystal formations. No clue there. So I checked the tool tip and indeed, Fire Strike showed as having a 50% chance to pierce. Then I checked Upheavals tool tip for damage infor and noticed that it also showed a 50% chance to pierce. It kind of seems like this extra 50% might be why I was noticing such a high pierce rate. I feel bad mentioning this cause i don’t want it patched
Lastly, Upheaval can proc more than once per Fire Strike! I lined up some enemies, then fired one strike. It took several tries to get consecutive crits since my OA isn’t the best yet, but I confirmed it multiple times. As long as Fire Strike directly hits the target directly and crits, Upheaval procs. This means you can get some serious dmg by lining up the enemies and getting multiple Upheaval procs. Of course, it’s nothing special on a single target.
I really wish the %chance to pierce would have been to Savagery. Anyhow, I’ve been running primal strike till lvl 50. I’ve nuked veteran away and killed the mad queen in about 7 seconds. About to burn through elite. I’m not sure when it will be better to run Fire Strike over Primal Strike, but Fire Strike as a significant decrease in dmg for me. I didn’t change my devotions up though, so maybe that’s why it was much lower dmg.
Would it really work like what you said? I always thought upheaval is a separate attack like primal strike and will not be affected by your attack replacers.
Seeing this observation, Upheaval should be really beastly with multi-hit weapon like archon and penetrating weapon like dreadschorcer, vortex of soul, and ugdenbog arcaneweaver; also don’t forget high OA.
Lol, Veretragna should try his aether ritualist with vortex of soul.
From what I’ve read, upheaval procs only if no other WPS procs, and is 100% on crit. So if I’m using savagery and it crits, I get the savagery strike + upheaval. Upheaval is modified by savagery. At least the %wpn dmg component making it a sizable amount of damage.
So high OA builds could get a really high proc rate, especially if you are hitting more than one target. Lots of low DA trash around a boss would act like a romb. Reminds me of exploding palm from D3.
You saw 50% chance to Pierce in upheaval and feral hunger because it got modify also by ugdenbog arcaneweaver.
It’s funny that the tooltip can show it just because the weapon has modifier for one of your auto-attack replacer, where in fact you can use ugdenbog arcaneweaver and use savagery and get no Piercing chance.
Damn, ritualist got so interesting now, will try to theorycraft one when I finish working.
Tried that once, but was really slow (12 min) and that was at a time where I wanted really speedy builds. Didn’t really optimize it though. Only had one draft then gave it up after 1 try.
If you guys can come up with something better, that would be great. I have high hopes for this build concept in general in FG because of the extra available movement skills.
Well… apparently this work with the inquisitor skills too. They all pierce. Godly clear. Makes me wonder about the life steal proc with necro??? Can’t imagine the amount of life steal that would give.
Number doesn’t look really convincing. Need to be tested on the field to get the feel.
Also, it is kinda hard to get sufficient attack speed, so I use harbinger of souls instead. Master of death can push the OA to 3.5k at the cost of Attack speed
