Vendors Discussion

[LightningYu]

@Gnomish_Inquisition

that is why i specifically asked you about a fresh start/clean slate run; because when you don’t have that stash of iron you can tangible feel it several times throughout your run vs a run where you have iron bars.
Specially if you flip flop so you accidentally/habitually treat your clean slate run as if you had iron bar and just craft or spend at will; you go bust several times throughout the run then
the difference and availability stored iron makes vs not is huge

I’ve to agree on this, esp. as someone who had to start over on xbox. That’s what made me painfully aware how much i could make it easier for myself in my PC Save with all the stuff which i had already unlockes, the amount of money, which i can share, the shared stashtabs unlocked etc etc.

And that’s also the same with the vendor. For leveling it can be quite helpfull to check it out regularly because you might get a gem which helps you, it’s just later on that vendor isn’t as vital anymore - but as someone already mentioned, it’s a question if every feature needs to be endgame viable, or if there can’t be features just for leveling and newcomers.

But they lost me at the point when they claimed Iron Bits aren’t important or anything at all to begin with, because i’d argue again that esp. Grim Dawn is one of the games where their main-currency does have a purpose. Respeccing, crafting, (faction) vendors etc. If you go at a craftingspree the iron bits are just gone. And as you mentioend part of it is also to make it balanced. Like it would push respeccing as example pretty much to freespec without any value, and then we would go in direction of Diablo 3 and such where builds and such doesn’t even have any weight and meaning at all, because you can change without any thought anytime anyway. Atleast iron bits are still a well balanced barrier, where you still have a lot of freedom to change quite often, but make it not too easy accessable to destroy it.

@Gnomish_Inquisition

however judging by your suggestions the difference is that seemingly you want an entirely different game if not entirely different genre of game/ARPG
you’re not asking for mere polish or cleanup, you’re asking for immense fundamental/radical different gameplay changes

Also agree, it really comes off weird. It reminds me back in my WoW days with some guildmember where i had a debate over Diablo 2 and pretty much any suggestion they had felt like making it less diablo 2 / ARPG and more MMORPG WoW-like.

[Gnomish_Inquisition]

@Res

in Devil’s crossing we have 2 guys and I don’t know if there is any difference between them

one sticks around the other doesnt’
*in the beginning i did always think the guy we save gave us better deals or something, but buy/sell prices etc turned out to be the same

also Reddan in Homestead is slightly specialized (pots, caster items)

[Croc]

I always buy the first medal for my characters from vendors (although buying a medal instead of being awarded one is weird, lol).

I also buy some components early game and I used to but ointments from the vendor in Homestead you can kill (hoarfrost ones were specially useful).

[WhiteWalker]

Iron bits and vendors are in a good shape as they are. I am playing for many many years now and tbh atm I got ‘only’ like 40mil, which is if you go on a crafting journey, not extremely much lol. Luckily, like in SR, the game is generous to make you wallet healthy again.

[KoalaeiO]

@Wyatan

Nobody uses magical or rare items beyond the early game.

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