Get out of my swamp, maya
Btw, also just because it has been done before doesnât mean that you canât put your own twist to it.
Case in point: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/pZrDeqL2
Donât ask what madness made me cook that up, but I wanted to see if I could. It remains untested thoughâŚ
I donât know enough to know what about it is âmadâ. Educate me?
The +3000% dmg on it. I wanted to see how far I could push it.
A bit of back story: Occulist 100% Pet Summoner Build For New Players
Is this the equivalent of a 2x double rolled chillstrife + double rolled stonetread + double rolled kuba pants infiltrator?
Because I see 4x subjugators
Yup, for the dmg. None of it is necessary ofcourse. Push past 2k and you are already more than
But if someone asks for more damage, I provide more dmg
Since the last buff they are pretty okayish for campaign. I managed to beat Kymon and Korvaak in ultimate without losing too many of them with items that were kind of garbage. I imagine that they are even better with the Lost Souls Set.
Cabalists level well with self-found gear; theyâre fairly durable all the way through the main campaign with attention to upgrades, components, and augments as needed. What you call viable is probably quite different from what I do, because Iâm not much for playing to the limits.
Iâm currently farming gear in SR65-66 (normal per Mayaâs suggestion) with the following snapshot: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4ZD44ApZ (never mind the Bloody Whetstone on the weapon; it was an experiment that I never got around to removing/replacing)
Sure, sheâs not optimized (or elegant, or even pretty), but she gets the job done and building her from zero using all self-found gear was great for learning how to play her. I donât GDStash, and I donât have a deep library of items since I returned to playing after a lengthy hiatus. Maybe one day Iâll have the gear for one of Mayaâs builds, but until then, this little gal with her dozen skeletons, and suite of other pets makes quick work out of most anything she goes up against.
Credit goes to David Allen over at his site for the basic leveling guide on which I otherwise went off-script about three-quarters of the way through main campaign. https://www.requnix.com/gaming/grim-dawn-builds/sir-crunchybones-skelemancer-cabalist
YMMV
p.s. With 12 skeletons to summon, I sure do wish I had +1 (or more) skeleton summoning to make the process quicker.
From what I understand, requinix basically ripped off the content/ideas from a bunch of veterans, so I wouldnât be surprised if the guide youâre following is basically yet another product of plagiarism.
But hey. If it helps, it helps.
@Ditchinit: I would also urge caution against following requnixâs builds excessively as his understanding of game mechanics seems lacking. There is a very real reason as to why he pulled his builds from the forum, and thatâs because many veterans were pointing out the inconsistencies (and how unoriginal) his builds. (You can read more here if youâre curious - [1.1.2.5] MR. BLOODYDOTS Vitality Bleed Conjurer Complete Build & Leveling Guide!)
Youâre vastly safer following one of mayaâs beginner guides.
EDIT: Just want to add that I say all this without the intent to speak ill of requnix who, Iâm sure in his own way, just wanted to help others. Iâm saying this because I donât want beginners or âcasualsâ to get disappointed should they still choose to follow his builds.
I changed some skill points around on the witching hour /ghol skele build of sigatrev and can do lokarr pretty consitently. But still the new crucible gives me headaches
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/RVvLxqpN
But i would be open to develop the build further since skelies were buffed in the amor and phys res department
Forum drama BS aside ⌠I cited my source just for reference because I didnât want you to think (or know) I didnât create the build on my own. I donât know (or care) about this personâs history here on this forum or even elsewhere on the internet. I judge the information on its own merit. The page I linked provides credit to another for the build (or inspiration for modifications to the build), so I consider that fair play; you may not. I also stated the build is solid using self-found gear through main campaign even as I went off track from the posted build. I consider those to be facts. The reason I posted as I did was to show you how easy it is to start with a Cabalist following a basic guide and also testify on the durability of that class. Cabalists can be fairly versatile and plenty of gear drops and is available to last for a pleasure cruise through alll three difficulties of the main campaign. What you do with it after that is up to you.
Yup. Thanks. And I mean that sincerely.
Apologies if what I said came across as a personal, butthurt attack on my end.
It truly wasnât. Itâs just that Iâve had my fair share of run-ins with requnix for me to be skeptical of his understanding of game mechanics. I merely wanted to urge anyone else whoâs reading the guiden to adopt a little caution.
But like I said - if it works, it works. Allâs well that endâs well.
EDIT: @Ditchinit - what IS YMMV?
A person who has depth of game mechanic knowledge will find the class even easier. Aside from devotions and skill choices while leveling, gearing is basically âequip and wear anything with pet bonuses, and upgrade to pieces with better pet bonuses when you find them.â Doing that, I found I didnât need components or augments until late in the game. I donât remember my characterâs first death, but I think it was probably sometime around Elite Ancient Grove.
YMMV = your mileage may vary, an old acronym from the early internet. Showing my age?
More like I donât ever go on reddit
In your opinion though, what is the biggest weakness of the build
Me neither, it was an old BBS acronym. (BBS = bulletin board system, in case youâre curious)
Multiple and varied damage types ⌠not a specialization into a single one: acid, fire, lightning, vitality, etc.
Some people think the skeletons are weak, but you can build them to be quite durable ⌠and as demonstrated, in large numbers. The same goes for the other pets - at least durability-wise.
I particularly like the fire proc from Fiend devotion placed on the skeletons for the additive effect; it provides both good offense and defense ⌠that is, skeleton archers and mages will proc it a lot and they generally stand still - so you can either stand in and among them for extra defense, or you can pilot them next to your skeleton warriors and other pets who are beating on a nemesis so their fire procs add to the damage dealt. That isnât something Iâve seen often on Cabalist builds.
You can find sufficient resistance gear, with pet and skill bonuses, so that isnât a challenge. Most or all of @Mayaâs end-game builds have items I am yet to find (either in whole or in blueprint form), but even then and with the gear demonstrated, I can survive a full scrum in SR66 boss room (sometimes barely depending on mix) if I get too careless and pull them all at once.
Good times.
Out of curiosity, why not hardcap soul harvest?
The build is more of a pet build than a caster build. Sure, it has Reap Spirit which is a little of both. As you can see in the grimtools link, the skill bar is already mostly filled (donât mind the Decapitate - it was an experiment) and combat generally works by keeping skills 1-4 in play with occasional pet re-summons as needed which hardly ever happens against trash, but sometimes with all the particle effects going off, I donât catch the fact that the pets are standing in [insert colored pools of bad stuff], so emergency pet re-summons are handily available.
Soul harvest is the third node of bone harvest. It adds a tonne of damage to pets.
Iâm probably speaking out my bum again, because the closest thing to a pet build Iâve played was pokemon yellow, but I would drop either hell hound, or birb for soul harvest + maxed 3rd node of skeles.
Especially since thatâs where all your modifiers seem to be aimed towards
Try it and let me know how it goes.
Youâre intrigued ⌠I can tell. Do it.
If you link me your character folder, I just might try it this weekend.
We can compare dummy kill times.
BTW, 2 more points to undead legion, and you get an additional skele.