My English is hopeless so i will talk shortly.
I play a vitality conjurer at the moment and meet some problem abbout devotion. I can’t define which one is better so i hope people here can help me out.
1st: http://grimcalc.com/build/D86kGF
2nd: http://grimcalc.com/build/chM4Ux
3rd: http://grimcalc.com/build/YbFRW4
ps: devotion skills have “weapon damage” (flame torrent, twin fang, …) that will help me “life steal” when i under effect of “bloodpack”/my weapon have “Adcth” option or not?
can someone help me?
between flame torrent, guardian’s gaze, scorpion sting and fetid pool what are 2 skills that will make my char work best?
170 view and nobody can help?
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In all fairness most people will not want to look at three separate grimcalc devotions and click back and forth and compare minutiae between each. I know I didn’t. As a vitality conjurer there are some very good devotion skills but the ones you asked about in your second post are not oriented toward that build, none of them. See wendigo’s mark, scales of ulcama etc
Also are you playing a caster vitality conjurer? If so you will have so much healing through spells that you will not need any attack damage converted to health, not to mention that you won’t be attacking at all
ok, i will make my question clearly so people don’t waste time to click all 3 links above
i confuse about which one i should take from 3 couple flame torrent + scorpion sting, guardian’s gaze + fetid pool, scorpion sting + guardian’s gaze
which couple work best with my char?
flame torrent, guardian’s gaze: because ocultist class have many skill that increase chaos damage, eldritch fire decrease chaos resistant and this char is a caster so he have plenty of spirit. All that thing will make 2 skills work but i wonder which is better when max rank?
scorpion sting: because reduce DA debuff —> more crit but is it enough?
fetid pool: because this skill have good damage, acceptle radius, decent cooldown and duaration. 33% when hit is nce and this skill can be helpful when fight with ranger
ps: devotion skills have “weapon damage” (flame torrent, twin fang, …) that will help me “life steal” when i under effect of “bloodpack”/my weapon have “Adcth” option or not?
Yes.
i confuse about which one i should take from 3 couple flame torrent + scorpion sting, guardian’s gaze + fetid pool, scorpion sting + guardian’s gaze
which couple work best with my char?
You can’t go wrong with Guardian’s Gaze + Scorpion Sting.
For the rest, how often do you move? How often do you get hit? (Fetid Pool procs when you take damage)
Flame Torrent/Fetid Pool are less useful if you kite or move around a lot. Flame Torrent’s range and duration are shorter than Guardian’s Gaze, so you want to stay as close your enemies as possible.
thanks for all replys.
i only have to kite when i fight with 2 hero/boss or more
so i facetank 70% all of the time
as i see maybe 2 flames of flame torrent ~ 5 eyes of guardian’s gaze, right?
so i think when clear pack of monsters maybe GG better than FT but when 1 vs 1 then FT win because of higher proc chance?
how about fetid pool? how it effect when meet ranger monsters?
From what I can see Flame Torrent can actually hit mobs multiple times (like Guardian’s Gaze) and because of the way the flame spirals move I think Flame Torrent can hit mobs even more times than Guardian’s Gaze as long as the mob is standing directly in front of you (where the two flame spirals meet).
I have not yet compared the damage between the two though, I’ve never had reason to choose between them. You’ll have to test that part manually.
Fetid Pool works well against ranged attackers, yes. It spawns below them.
OP I am still very confused about what you are asking and why. You stated that you are playing a vitality conjurer. By the nature of that statement I assume you are playing a vitality damage caster. The only skill that you will have that will do a different damage component will be sigil of consumption with the second skill taken… So why are you choosing devotion skills that do absolutely zero vitality damage??? if you are wanting to play a vitality caster there are some incredibly useful VITALITY constellations that you can pick up that will greatly increase both your damage and your survivability and I have already mentioned a couple. You have got flame torrent which is chaos and fire, scorpion sting which is poison, guardian’s gaze which is chaos and poison and fetid pool which is your only vitality damage constellation at all and it only procs when you are hit… If you are playing a vitality conjurer presumably you are stacking vitality damage, why then would you pick active constellation skills that dont synergize with that? see where I am going with this?? Also if you are playing a vitality conjurer you absolutely do not need to worry about attack damage converted to health. At all.
Because it has the potential to work?
The guy is asking the right questions about %weapon damage and ADCtH. You realize that there are now some very successful builds which capitalize on %weapon damage from devotion procs. These builds wouldn’t exist if the people behind them only played cookie cutter builds.
Vitality conjurers are actually perfect for experimentation because they’re not particularly gear dependent. The guy also has all the basics covered with his build (both totems + CoF + Sigil, he even has HoW and BoD) so he can do whatever he wants with anything else.
I do realize that but those builds are based on characters that attack for a living. As opposed to characters that do damage through spells, regardless of if they have a weapon damage component or not. Maybe I am way off base but it seems like a waste of devotion points to get Adcth devotions when you are a vitality caster that already gets so much healing inherent to your spells… I get that he can do whatever he wants, I am just trying to help him understand that there are better ways to do it. If he wants to make a hybrid chaos/fire/vitality caster then more power to him but it did not seem that way from what he initially posted.
Well, it’s up to him.
The thing is, looking at his skillpoint distribution it’s going to take A LOT of effort to screw up that build. It’ll probably still work even if he does something really weird like aim for the Oleron constellation.
That is actually a good point, the devotion setup is kind of tertiary to the build in this case, vitality conjurer stands on its own. Touche sir
thanks alot 2 of you because spending time to answer me
my English is not good enough to me can fully show my mind for you so i am very sorry
yes, i got almost thing that make my conjurer work and i have also some points left to spend so i want to use those points to complete my char
as you can see, beside vitality, my char use chaos damage as second damage source (sigil have chaos damage and specialy doom bolt) so i think GG and FT can work as additional for sigil
and i want maximum affect of bloodpack so i think get some “wp damage” skills for more “life steal” beside of orther skills
i want facetank 100% time so i think more life steal is good because when against 2 or more boss lvl monsters i have to kite around my totems like little duck
my problem is that, i think get some proc for more damage more life steal will help to solve my problem
am i wrong? or have some better way that i don’t known?
This is kind of what I was getting at with my devotion choices, that there are certain devotion skills that provide vitality damage (which honestly is the bulk of your damage) and that damage is already converted to health regardless of weapon damage or not!!! There are also several gear items that provide procs that convert the damage of the proc into health independent of adcth. That was exactly my point
so you can show me how you spent point for your devotion system?
and it’s good if you give me some equitment suggestion too