I’ve seen a couple variants lately and there seem to be people on both sides of the “ranged is a PITA” discussion.
I’m interested in the concept, but I want to make sures dozens of hours won’t be wasted.
Thoughts?
You’ll be able to kill Fabius in like 20 seconds without even touching a button but take a dozen minutes or more killing Thalonis or Valdaran with a dedicated retaliation build. I don’t think a retaliation build can even complete Valbury even with the patience to kill the boss at the gate with the bosses’ mechanics.
I just skipped stuff that doesn’t attack in melee with my retaliation warder, not worth the time.
That’s unfortunate… :undecided:
nope, monster will run into a wall:p Seriously, just make him hybrid. It’s what i do with one o my commando (temper again helps in every aspect here). You can still, blitz/cadence…Assassin’s mark debuff helps you retaliation damage too, Counter strike is awesome now. Sure you’ll have less dps but you will have versatility while doing the same amounts of stupid high retaliation damage like the pure retaliation builds
You will die of boredom.
There is a solution however. Go Commando. PSA: I don’t mean walk around without underwear, that’s just filthy. I mean that the Commando has one significant advantage over the classical Warder/WB variants. It comes with trade-offs, however.
You get Meteor+Mine as a cheap and effective aoe damage source. Also, lightning resistance reduction works well with the Dawnbreaker set, though I heard this was not the best item choice for retaliation builds (i tested with 3/4 from that set because I was interested in the concept rather than details and it works fine).
You lose some retaliation devotions because Meteor is positioned diametrically from the ones you want, but you can still stack >700% retaliation damage bonuses and decent reflection. You lose massive regeneration bonus from Savagery or the Bloody pox monster buff for reflection, but you get a quasi-Devastation with 0 cooldown.
The biggest problem is that you now have to stack OA as well as tanking stats, but stats are always a problem with hybrids.
edit:
Lol, great minds think alike (so do morons, however).
Ok. What do I do as I level. I have some retaliation gear found off my main, but that’s 50+ levels away. Can I play self-found and simply stack retaliation damage? It comes in many flavors, so I worry about that.
What would you suggest a mid-level (5000 ft) standpoint be?
As an aside, thank you guys for being so useful and dedicated to the community.
This does not work anymore in the next patch, at least that’s what i saw on the playtester streams i watched the other day.
Can’t assign Meteor to Mines anymore.
If you want retaliation build and dont want to die from boredom make some hybrid, something Chthon made few days ago or go for acid/poison retaliation caster hybrid WB and you can take ranged mobs easy with transmuted DEE/DIG/DIS combo.
What an elegant solution:)
Unless the buff metors they will be just a nice fireworks display