Quickest thing I can think of
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/aZqGApm2
Far from optimized
I’d say mad_lee would guide you better
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53871
- Seal of Corruption on a build with non-existent aether damage
- No ADCtH
- Feral Hunger doesn’t work with Thunderous Strike
You can also check my beginner-friendly Elementalist.
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66518
I’ll give an example so you might understand. Let’s say a mob has 80% resistance vs lightning. Your Wind Devil will debuff it -37%. That will result in dropping that 80% to 43%. That’s pretty solid there. Now Hand of Ultos reduces elemental RR by 25% (notice the lack of -, and the %, that changes things). Now it takes 43% and reduces that number by 25% which results in 43% * 75% = 32.3% As you can see, that 25% only behaved like 11% of another type of RR.
If that 25% was 25 RR, or -25% RR, it would have resulted in an end result of 18%, instead of 32.3%.
One-point Blood pack also very useful.
Good catch, I usually keep it at 4/12 though.
Between noobish theorycrafting here and going full Fox Mulder regarding “Pierce Damage Conspiracy” in the other thread I’d say it’s time to hit the sack
- Seal is for the OA and RR
- Derp
- Derp
Cool build, nice of you to do beginner friendly builds
Thanks for mentioning my build. It’s the proper and fun way to play Ultos Druid, using both Savagery and Primal Strike and destroying all content on the way.
From what I’ve seen, your Druid has several serious flaws:
- First is devotion setup. Arcane Mines and Elemental Storm are mandatory since patch 1.0.2.0. Ghoul is highly recommended for melee too.
- Overcapping skills like Heart of the Wild, Oak Skin, Raging Tempest is a waste too
- For CC use vines (just remove couple of points you’ve spent on Olexra’s Flash Freeze
- Storm Totem is useless without gear support and overcapping
- Gear choices are all over the place. One slot (pants or boots, or even both) should be a good green that patches your resists
- For ring choices follow my guide
- That belt is a big no-no for our build. There is Avenger’s girdle - absolute bis for any 2h melee shaman
Overall, try following my build and I assure you would reach much better results with it.
Thunderous strike is kinda meh. I tried using it on my Vindicator. It is semi-viable (huge dot ticks with mythical Raka’Jax) but overall it’s much inferior to Savagery with WPS.
I think only class combo that might use Primal Strike/Thunderous Strike effectively is probably Elementalist.
While i’m not saying Elementalist is a bad option, Conjurer just looks like the better choice. Mainly because CoF is far more usable than Thermite Mines.
That and BoD with flat OA, Poison and physical resist and heal. Solael Witchfire with the attack speed.
Also, Ugdenbog Sparkthrower is a better option in my opinion than Raka’Jax. Base damage is lightning, 40% crit damage to PS, higher base speed and it has actual attack speed increase (why does Raka’Jax has % spirit?). Only thing Raka’Jax has over it is the +2 to shaman skills, which is cool.
I think Primal Strike with Thunderous Strike deals good ST damage now. Not as great as Savagery, but still decent. The only issue I think that Primal Strike has now is just the fact that it’s unable to do neat shit like proccing two crit devotions with savagery since upheaval only works with basic attacks and Primal Strike isn’t a basic attack modifier.
hah, you are right, completely forgot about conjurer being another option, guess you are right
Got to this, and its very awsome : https://www.grimtools.com/calc/aZqGAjp2 125k sheet dps 19%life steal
Finished BoC on Ulti in 2 players, the other one was carried by me, he just stood back, I used only 1 health potion at last boss, and only once mirror of ereoctes, also at last boss, no aether cluster.
Will keep on playing and making this build better, i like it a lot, thnx all for tips and info, Arcane Bomb is very good, and on Olexa’s Flas Freeze has 100% chance on attack, very nice, and also the rings go very good.
But still thunderous strike deserves no -%total dmg at least, if not lower -%weapon dmg (35-50%max).
So you half-ignored my advice about the needlessness Of Oak Skin/Heart of The Wild/Raging Tempest overcapping? That’s extra 16 skill points that you can free without practically loosing anything. That could be 12/12 mirror plus 6/10 Nullification, which is super useful against nemesis fights. Or it could be Storm Totem overcap.
And don’t ignore Elemental Storm devotion, it’s a flat resist reduction, huge damage boost.
Heart of the wild - health% and Oak Skin - pierce res% !
There are just 5 points in storm totem.
1 in mirror is just enough, it has the 100% dmg absorption, and adding points in it will just raise the reflect and lower the cd, which are good, but not that needed for me so far…
And as u can see there are 3 points left for devotions, didnt know what to put them in, and u are right…elemental storm it is.
Edited -> And what would be best to put elemental storm on ? Storm Totem or Wind Devil - they both have 25% on attack.
So you bound the proc that’s supposed to increase your damage against most troublesome enemies, bosses, etc - to a skill that just doesn’t work on most bosses? :rolleyes:
Sorry, but this thread had just highlighted that despite having a few high-level characters clad in legendaries you don’t understand the game well and anything you say about balance has no credibility from now on.
=)) good one kid, by ur logic if u eat potatos u will never be a lawyer …
(just repeating ur name) … :)) if u dont read dont write pls
Just cause u and 50people out of 1mil that are playing think the skill doesnt need another decent buff, doesnt mean i dont understand the game, it means u just dont agree with my ideea 
…(repeating ur name)…:))
Indeed it doesn’t, I never said that you don’t understand the game because I disagree with your opinion on Primal Strike. The conclusion is actually based on the build you had posted and other statements like complaining that you don’t see “red” crits while your OA is just plain low to deliver such crits on Ultimate, which has nothing to do with Primal Strike directly.
Since you had mentioned lawyers - would you trust a lawyer’s opinion on something if you see that’s he is less competent that you? I won’t.
What’s with the amount of smileys anyway? Feeling insecure?
Calling others ''kid" is the worst possible way of arguing. You get triggered way too easily. If you want your threads to stay open (I imagine you do) then keep it clean and don’t insult others
On the topic of buffing PS, you haven’t provided us any kind of concrete proof as to why Thunderous Strike needs a buff. Skills can never be buffed solely based on anecdotes
If you feel something is weak then state your reasons. So far whatever has been stated in the thread it seems the problem lies in your optimization skills rather than the actual skill itself
Lastly, Olexra’s Flash Freeze doesn’t work on bosses and therefor Arcane Bomb will never proc on a boss. It’s useless against bosses who don’t spawn minions and overcapped Pierce Resistance is useless so those points in Oak Skin are wasted and 2 RR for a 4 point investment is also bad so those points Raging Tempest are bad as well
1 pt in Oak Skin and Soft cap on Raging Tempest should suffice
This guy just cant communicate normally.
I don’t know how you can say that Primal Strike, an AE attack, deserves more love when you can take the same character, with equal Savagery and Primal strike (and no WPS’s) and pit them against each other on a training dummy, and you’ll see Primal Strike kills faster. It’s an AE skill, and does more single target DPS. Once you add in WPS attacks, then savagery takes a lead, but only then. It takes a ton more points into Savagery and support skills to equal and beat Primal Strike.
Primal Strike is great. It might not be the best. And if you compare it to Savagery with 20 more skill points spent, it won’t beat it any more against a single target, but that doesn’t take away from how much faster it will mow down groups of mobs.
Not every skill needs to be the best at everything, but even then, Primal Strike is close.