[] Thu-King (2H-Melee Druid / No-Pet / Thunderous Strike Build)

(2H-Melee Druid / No-Pet / Thunderous Strike Build)


Thunderous StriKing Build

[CENTER]-- The build has multiple versions, and you can combine them as you wish, keep reading –
This is the base version, with easier to get items
–> https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4VxGzxM2 <–

  • the build in this link is the latest version of it no matter what links are in comments -

Gameplay video, build is easy and looks awesome to play
(killed Kuba and The High Council during)
–> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awu_Hrkptno <–


[li]Watcher Crest (craftable) - (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7786) Craft it at Angrim for +%armor.[/li]
[/ul]With Bloodied Crystal (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8895) for max Bleed Res and more %armor.

For max out res has to be General’s (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9662)
of Scorched Ends (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10685) Try to get more Chaos Res on it.
or of Shattered Reality (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10709) Try to get more Chaos Res on it.
You might even find good Magical rolls for it, but Rare are better.

Until you find the Watcher Crest you need, you can also use :
Mythical Vanguard Star (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8934)
or Mythical Gildam Arcanum Commendation (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7814)

With Runebound Topaz (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8897) on both rings.
Try to get as much Elem Res on both as u can.
Why 2 Glyphs ? To max out Stormcaller’s Pact for more %crit dmg. And the Glyph Granted Skills stack, you can have them both at the same time.

With Leathery Hide (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/2850)
Try to get more Vit Res on it so you can change augment on chest armor with Coven Black Ash.

[li]Mythical Ultos’ Spaulders (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9221)[/li]
[/ul]With Sacred Plating (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8913) - u practically need everything the compo offers.

[li]Mythical Ultos’ Cuirass (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9262)[/li]
[/ul]With Living Armor (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8912) - u also need everything the compo offers.

[li]Mythical Ultos’ Stormseeker (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9431)[/li]
[/ul]With Seal of Blades for ADCTH (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8898) aslo for more %armor and %pierce res ofc.

[li]Mythical Ultos’ Gem (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9005) Best with more Chaos Res.[/li]
[/ul]With Tainted Heart (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8909)

[li]Mythical Stormcage Legguards (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9189)[/li]
[/ul]With Ancient Armor Plate (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/2884)

[li]Mythical Stormtitan Treads - (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9096)[/li]
[/ul]With Ugdenbog Leather (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8910)

[li]Avenger’s Girdle - (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7989)[/li]
[/ul]With Ugdenbog Leather (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8910)

[li]Cindertouch - (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8045) Best with more Chaos Res.[/li]
[/ul]With Restless Remains (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/2861) for more ADCTH, which is mostly the key to your survival.

[li]Eye of the Storm - (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/1499)[/li]
[/ul]Try to craft until u get Completion Bonus of “+1 Raging Tempest +1 Torrent” so you can reach 22/12 Torrent (10targets) and win 1 extra skill point from Raging Tempest.


Shoulders - Coven Black Ash (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7542)
Weapon - Potent Malmouth’s Will (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7521)
Rings & Amulet - Sylvarria’s Essence https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7516)
Chest Armor - Wendigo Soulscent Powder (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7548)
Helm & Belt - Wendigo Bloodscent Powder (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7547)
Pants, Boots & Gloves - Venomguard Powder (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/458)

Any item of the ones in the above build, except the craftable ones, can be found easily if u farm uber places (sot/boc/port/mourandale/lokkar/crucible - you know…the only farmable and playable end game places), if you don’t already have them, if not, you can join trade games or open games with name like “Need Item Name”, and you will find them very fast.

The most important thing to learn is when to use Mirror of Ereoctes. Don’t panic if your life goes down cause you have Ghoulish Hunger that triggers, also Prismatic Diamond, and as long as you keep attacking you are stealing enough life to survive almost anything.
Always have Wind Devils arround you and right before you start fighting always summon the Storm Totem and the Wendigo Totem.
Wind Devil and Storm Totem are mainly for reducing resistances on enemies more than for doing actual damage.
Olexa’s Flash Freeze is just for trash hoards, but they die fast anyway.

This base version of the build is not for Crucible…yet…keep reading.

15% Life Steal / 130K-140K Sheet Dps / 150K-250K-350K-ish Crits





Pandora : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73BtWLN9ojY&t=13s - 3 Avatars
Sentient : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZgvyWkWFdc - 5 Sentinels
Zanty : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CB-p0gJGW4 - 10 Zantarins
Winter Breeze : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34CICzDjNxY&t=5s - 10 Chillwinds
Benn10 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-uFFdegJW0&t=2s - 10 Benn’Jhars
Fabulous : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIm3yqU2w9k - 10 Gonzars
Project Blue Beam : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eynfovwZBI - 10 Valdarans
Hidden : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leHObrDDxIE&t=28s - 10 of each Hidden Guardians
Herald & Kumar : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J70hDp-6-I&t=188s - 5 of each Heralds

Uber SoT run : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HllnVSxQxTE&t=757s - x12 monster spawn rate
Uber BoC run : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkw547ZVjgA&t=669s - x12 monster spawn rate
Uber Port run : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EyVgsdBEvU&t=1s - x12 monster spawn rate
Uber Lokkar run : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03prj9-Ttoo&t=2s - x12 monster spawn rate


Thunder Storm

–> https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4NOgmeON <–

  • the build in this link is the latest version of it no matter what links are in comments -

–> Lokarr facetank : https://streamable.com/yo3uy <–
–> Ekket’Zul facetank : https://streamable.com/6k9li <–
–> Avatar of Mogdrogen facetank : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HNBBnVMDfE <–
–> Avatar of Mogdrogen solo-facetank in party : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZdsDt0Jauo <–
–> Shar’Zul facetank : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X25RWnnqqhM (no Maiven Sphere) <–
–> Mad Queen facetank : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSW7y-K7zEo (no Maiven Sphere) <–
–> Clone of John Bourbon fight : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9IBABSPk8g&feature=youtu.be <–
–> Grava’Thul fight : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N68Kde9b3m4 (nerf him) <–

What has changed ?

[/ul]Watcher Crest (craftable) - (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7786) Craft it at Gaius Ember for %crit.

Try to get more Pierce Res and Bleed Res on it.
Has to have one of the following so you dont have to use Bloody Crystal as compo on it, and you can use Tainted Heart or better Attuned Loodstone for more %crit :
Bloodletter’s (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9658)
or Runecarved (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9686)
or Tempest (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9622)
or Maniacal (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9626)
of Hungering Rifts (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10639)
or of Voidfire (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10705)
You might even find good Magical rolls for it, but Rare are better.

If you decide to use Bloody Crystal as compo on medal, you can use any other medal that has pierce res on it, and it’s best to be a craftable one so you can get %crit on it. But again, it’s best to max out %crit with this version of the build, so a compo with %crit bonus is best.

[li]Pants : Hardest to get item !!![/li]
[/ul]Kinda have to be Solael-Sect Legguards (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8155) for the extra ADCTH which is key to the build’s survival.
Drops from Guardian of Solael (http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hidden_Path)

Have to be Thunderstruck (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9666) of Kings (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10689) so you maintain all max res.

They pretty much can be ANY Thunderstruck PANTS of Kings, but Solael-Sect also has 2-4% life steal which is very important to the build, and I haven’t tested this version with any other pants.

[/ul]Mythical Arcanoweave Cord (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7971) - You now have +1 to all Arcanist Skills also, and more Chaos Res.

[li]Helm and Rings[/li]
[/ul]Craft Mythical Ultos’ Hood and both Mythical Glyphs of Kelphat’Zoth at Gaius Ember for %Crit Dmg on them.
Try to get more Vitality Res on Helm, and more Elem Res on rings.

[/ul]Add Attuned Loodstone (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/2897) on Medal, and, if u got higher Vit Res on Helm, add another one on Amulet, if not, just add a Tainted Heart (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8909) for that max %Crit Dmg with still max Vit Res.
Add Prismatic Diamond (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/2885) on Helm.

  • Augments

Pants, Belt and Boots - Venomguard Powder (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/458)
Chest Armor, Helm, Shoulders and Gloves - Coven Black Ash (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7542)

  • Skills

Leave just 1 point in Mirror or Ereoctes, max out Arcane Will and add 6-7-8-9 points in Iskandra’s Elemental Exchange, and check at each point to see when it starts lowering your sheet dps cause of the conversion, and with 18-19% life steal and the new higher dmg and %Crit Dmg, you won’t need a lower CD for it, but if u want u just unskill some Iskandra’s Elemental Exchange and some Arcane Will and you max it out, but again, you wont need it mostly, and this version of the build is to max out the dmg and %crit.

In comparison to base build…
This build wins:
+2-4% Life Steal
+20%(ish) Crit Damage
+10-15k Sheet Damage
+100OA and +50DA
+130% to All Damage (Arcane Will)
+Skill Battle Cry (10% Chance when Hit) 30 Second Skill Recharge
18 Second Duration / 18 Meter Radius
+30%(145% for me in game) to All Damage / +10% Total Speed

This build looses:
-400Armor and -6-10% Spirit
-Skill Chain Lightning (20% Chance when Hit) 2 Second Skill Recharge
Affects up to 5 targets / 135-445(4.2k-14k for me in game) Lightning Damage

This version of the build is also not for Crucible…yet…keep reading.

17%-19% Life Steal / 150K-155K Sheet Dps / 175K-300k-450K-ish Crits


–> https://www.grimtools.com/calc/8NKmPqQV <–

Yes NORMAL Light’s Defender Gauntlets, they are better then the Myth ones for this build.

Yes no more Restless Remains, with more attack speed, life stolen is faster, so u don’t need that much, and ofc…

This version of the build is also not for Crucible…yet…keep reading.

Stats - add exactly how much u need in Physique and rest max out Cunning for more OA.
It’s your choice if you want to unskill Mogdrogen’s Pact and max out Maiven’s Sphere.
You can get 1 shot if you are not careful in the uber places without Maiven.

15%-ish Life Steal / 180K-ish Sheet Dps / 200k-300k-350K-ish Crits

–> Lokkar Face-Tank Run : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eBx7psWMfg <–



—> https://www.grimtools.com/calc/eZPmPxmN <—
- No Maiven’s Sphere + Max Mogdo Pact + Myth Guthook Belt + Wendigo Eye + Seal of Skies -

–> Crit da dummy in [SIZE=“3”]Wrath Mode (no Seal of Skies) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK6SYdU5yIY (turn down volume)[/SIZE] <–

This version of the build is also not for Crucible…yet…keep reading.


Get an Alkamos’ Warsword (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8774) or even an Alkamos’s Schyte (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8768), roll doesn’t really matter, any will work, and add a Riftstone (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/2862) on it, put it to secondary weapons slot in inventory (swap weapons), and you have your travel piece for fast movement.

If you have a Vindicator, this is the ranged version of this Thu-King build (easy to get items - not for Crucible)
–> https://www.grimtools.com/calc/mN4woyrZ <–[/CENTER]

With any version of the build, after adding required Physique, with remaining points, it’s your choice to max out :
Physique (more life/DA) or Cunning (more OA/chance to hit/crit) or Spirit (more damage).

– Illusions –
Temporal Arcblade (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9429)
Stormweave Armor (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8373)
Spellscourge Visor (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8139)
Spellscourge Vanguard (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8297)
Mageslayer’s Armguard (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8046)
Stormcage Legguards (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9189)
Stormbearers (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8020)
Ranger’s Ribon (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/743)

– Alternative Illusions –
Ultos’ Stormseeker (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9431)
Stormreaver (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9427)
Mageslayer’s Shoulderguard (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8298)
Trozan’s Mantle (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9222)
Stormtitan Treads (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9096)
Stormscorched Shoulderguards (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8279)
Stormherald’s Visage (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8113)
Champion of the Light (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9412)
Grava’Thul’s Legguards (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8177)

Opened to suggestions…


With this version of the build you can finish 150-170 Crucible on Gladiator difficulty.
–> https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2EOPMmZ <–

  • the build in this link is the latest version of it no matter what links are in comments -

[CENTER]–> Glad Crucible 0-150 (No Banners/No Buffs/No Clusters) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQd2AzINbkE <–
–> Glad Crucible 150-170 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7DLLB8P-wA&t=6s <–
–> Uber Glad Crucible 150-170 (12x monster spawn rate) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94QWgYRb2Gg <–[/CENTER]

What has changed ?

[/ul]Gollus Ring (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7872)

Drops from Gollus, the Deepdweller (http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Gollus,_the_Deepdweller)

It can be any of the following combinations for more health and armor:

Bloodletter’s (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9658)
Consecrated (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9634)
Harmonious (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9614)
Imposing (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9652)
Runecarved (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9686)

Dread Lord’s (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9616) is also good, if you don’t find any of the above, offering +5-7% ADCTH and +18-22% Chaos Res, but more %armor and %health is more important because you already have enough life steal, but more never hurts anyone, except the enemy. Even so it’s still a good roll.

of the Untamed (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10651)
of Scorched Runes (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10787)
of the Dranghoul (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10715)
of the Basilisk (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10659)
of Nature’s Bounty (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10723)

of the Gildam Arcanum (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10637) is also good, having 53-67% Skill Disrupt Res (which is very good for Crucible) and 5% Chance of +62-78% Skill CDR (also good).

Imposing of Scorched Runes is best but any of the above will work.

You might even find good Magical rolls for it, but Rare are better.

[/ul]Ikrix Scale (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7750)

Drops from Ikrix the Ravener (http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Ikrix,_the_Ravener)

It can be any of the following combinations for more health and armor:

Bloodletter’s (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9658)
Consecrated (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9634)
Harmonious (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9614)
Imposing (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9652)
Runecarved (https://www.grimtools.com/db/prefixes/9686)

of the Untamed (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10651)
of Scorched Runes (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10787)
of the Dranghoul (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10715)

of the Gildam Arcanum (https://www.grimtools.com/db/suffixes/10637) is also good, having 53-67% Skill Disrupt Res (which is very good for Crucible) and 5% Chance of +62-78% Skill CDR (also good).

Imposing of the Dranghoul is best but any of the above will work.

You might even find good Magical rolls for it, but Rare are better.

[/ul]Mythical Footpads of the Grey Magi (craftable) (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9097) Craft them at Angrim for %armor.
For the Reduced Entrapment Duration mostly, but also for it’s Granted Skill.

[li]Helm and Ring[/li]
[/ul]Use the Mythical Ultos’ Hood and Mythical Glyph of Kelphat’Zoth with %armor bonus on them this time.

[/ul]Reset stats and add all 105 into Physique.

[/ul]No more Arcane Will and Overload. Added 10/10 Conversion.

[/ul]No more Spear of the Heavens. Added Aeon’s Hourglass with Time Dilation on Primal Strike, and moved Hand of Ultos on Wendigo Totem.

Mirror of Ereoctes is almost…always now…cause of Time Dilation and overall u need health and armor mostly while still keeping all max res. Ofc you loose some dmg, but not that much, considering you have buffs and banners in Crucible.
I always use 2 Stonewalls and 2 Vanguards + All 4 Buffs.

Alex’ meteors only took half life, and i could facetank him all the way using Mirror ofc, also the same with Grava.

I have to admit I always use Hoarfrost Ointment (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/324) in Crucible. No matter what. My Cold res should affect freeze duration/freeze rezist. Max out Cold res should at least take freeze duration to half. That’s just my opinion.

Green Items ? Hard to get ? More reason to PLAY and FARM !!!

Other usable items (win some/lose some):

Massacre (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8225)
Mogdrogen’s Ardor (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8228)
Eternity (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8224)
Avenger (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/1508)
Aegis (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/1495)
Citadel (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/1498)

Mythical Light’s Defender Gauntlets (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9121)
Mythical Guthook Belt (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9068)
Mythical Gladiator’s Distinction (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7982)
Mythical Runeguard Greaves (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8018)
Mythical Fiendflesh Greaves (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8015)
Mythical Lifegiver Signet (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9036)
Judicator’s Seals (https://www.grimtools.com/db/itemsets/85)
Badge of Mastery (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/794)

Empowered Marauder’s Gloves (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/1217)
Mythical Thundertouch Bracers (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9109)
Mythical Eternal Band (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9028)
Mythical Tempest Sigil (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8949)
Mythical Combat Medic’s Mark (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8947)
Mythical Sanctus Crest (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7800)
Mark of Fierce Resolve (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/778)

Wendigo Eye (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7779)
Wendigo Gaze (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7784)
Living Ring (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7881)

Seal of Annihilation (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8915)
Seal of Ancestry (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8914)
Seal of Resonance (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8904)
Seal of Might (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8902)
Seal of Skies (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8906)
Titan Plating (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8916)
Spellscorched Plating (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8908)
Enchanted Earth (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8896)
Focusing Prism (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/2844)
Silk Swatch (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/2872)

Potent Essence of Ch’thon (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/402)
Potent Malmouth’s Soul (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7523)
Potent Malmouth’s Aegis (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7519)
Potent Dermapteran Chitin (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/372)
Bladeward Powder (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/460)
Potent Ravager’s Eye (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7536)
Potent Coven’s Terror (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7508)
Coven Warding Powder (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7541)
Wendigo Lifescent Powder (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7549)
Rhowan’s Wisdom (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/403)
Potent Menhir’s Blessing (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/421)

Hoarfrost Ointment (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/324)
Vilescar Ointment (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/11221)
Elixir of the Hunt (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/309)
Royal Jelly Essence (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/328)
Ugdensalve (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/11223)

Have fun with it. Will be completed if I forgot anything.


I pretty much like the look of Your avatar. Besides Spellscourge helm and shoulders, what illusionist apperance do You use for chest and hands?

Mageslayer Armguard for gloves https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8046
Stormweave Armor for chest https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8369

Nice build Bitchachos even tho i am not fan of primal strike cause i adore Savagery than thunderous strike it looks awesome and fun, epic name too

Thanx ! Have to try Savagery build soon, i guess more life steal and more single target dmg instead of large aoe hoard kills. But overall, i like how the gameplay looks besides the char skin :), the only nasty thing is the size of the cinderwinds imo.
But it’s not finished yet, have some items left to add, but had to leave home while I was posting it and didn’t finish, it will be done today.

Stormwave Armor / Mageslayer’s Armguard / Spellscourge Visor / Stormbearers Boots / Stormcage Legguards / Temporal Arcblade and Ranger’s Ribbon (rare medal / green color name) for medal.

seems nice, looks nice,

video of 170 crucible clear ?

With what can I record the entire time ?

Would really be nice to be able to change base colors of items and their effects.
Green Aetheral Lightning :rolleyes: imagine some chaos redish lightning…

Facetanking Lokkar with the Thu-King Wrath of the Storm Lord More Damage Version : https://streamable.com/yo3uy

Used 1 Health Potion, 1 Mirror
Ghoulish Hunger triggered and I think also Prismatic Diamond

Had Hoarfrost Ointment for before Lokkar, cause with this build, the most dangerous enemies there are the boulders…

Had to use mirror cause I casted wind devil, storm and wendigo totems, all 3, one after another, and if u look carefully that is when I used the mirror, cause without attacking, meaning also stealing life, I was taking a lot of dmg,

A lil stuck here, maybe someone can help : https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2EOkevZ

Is it possible to add Panther and still keep Toad, Ghoul, Hawk, Widow, Kraken, Rhowan’s Crown, Spear of the Heavens and Ultos, Shepard of Storms ???

And is “32 reduced target’s Elemental Resistances for 2 seconds” from Elemental Storm actually as good as it sounds ?
Which type is it, is it better than the Arcane Bomb ? For sure it’s not better than Hand of Ultos.

As a debuff, Elemental Storm is a lot better than Hand of Ultos. The debuff is probably 3 times more effective. Besides not subtracting from the targets resists, like other types, it also will not stack with Viper.

So in general speaking “20 reduced target’s Elemental Resistances” is better than “20% reduced target’s Elemental Resistances”.

Someone explained once with type A type B/C but i think i didnt understood correctly.

-20% RR stacks with all forms of -% RR, as long as they come from a different source.
20 RR does not, but is added to the total of -%'s you have.

Those are added up, then subtracted from the targets resist.

20% RR will then be multiplied by what is left. So once applied it is (1-.20) * remaining resists. So if the enemy is down to 40% elemental resists when applied, then it’s 40% * .8 = 32% which is not nearly as effective as you would have expected.

So it’s better to have only 1 source of normal RR and more of %RR ?

Open Hand of Mercy is the same as Hand of Ultos and Arcane Bomb but for all res ?

What about Raging Tempest ?

You can only have 1 source of RR, and RR%, but as many sources of -RR% as you want. And if given the choice, RR is much better than RR%. -RR% is always good.

Look at this. Type B is the best, but single Type A can be just as good, but it just doesn’t stack with other Type A, and Type C is the worst, and doesn’t stack with other Type C’s.

The sources on my build (https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2EOkevZ) are following :

-Raging Tempest
-Hand of Ultos
-Arcane Bomb
-Elemental Storm

Do they all work/stack together ? Did I miss any ?

If I add Myth Open Hand of Mercy will they all work together ?

I made it pretty easy for you. You should easily be able to figure it out. And you also have Viper.

RR types, that only the best will be used:
Elemental Storm

-RR% types, that stack with everything, except themselves:
Raging Tempest
Arcane Bomb

RR% types, only the best will apply, and it is not subtracted, but multiplied after the other types have been subtracted:
Hand of Ultos (Ultos wins, though it might not always apply as it isn’t 100% on attack).

So it’s pointless to use Arcane Bomb if im constantly using Wind Devils ? From what you say, and from what others said in the primal strike thread, Raging Tempest can trigger Arcane bomb, but they dont stack…so…wtf ?

Is Viper’s %RR permanent ? Or how does it trigger ? Does it have a CD ?

Hand of Ultos is 100% chance on crit for me in game on primal strike.

It stacks with everything, except themselves. That means they STACK with each other, just multiple wind devils will not result in multiple -RR’s.

Read the spreadsheet and read the tooltips. The damn Viper debuff says “for 3 seconds” at the end. How does that make you think it is permanent.