[1.0.6.1] Carrot Tank - Markovian S&B Witchblade, Gladiator farmer (12 minutes)

[veretragna]

Okay, so I run some numbers
1)Bull rush bound to Blitz is useless waste of points. The dmg output is so low its not worth to pick it. The best T1 devotion for this build is Fiend. You convers all of it to phyz and you can bind it to literally anything CoF, plague, etc. Nodes on both devotion are equaly worthless for you.
2)If you run Empirion there is no reason to invest intro War cry more that one pointer.
3)Best augments for head and chest are sanctified bones. They rock.
4)max Olreon rage. Internet trauma do it dirty job.
5)Blood of dread! I hope you pick it for healing, cause OA on this build scale so bad its not worth our time.
6)Guardian gaze is useless on this build, as it don’t work at all due to armor. =(

1. Agreed. Respecced into Fiend
2. RR radius is important too, I’ll keep it at 8m radius at least
3. I know Matter of taste. Usually I use double boner but here I prefer flat damage and OA
4. With extra points from War Cry it’s possible
5. OA and regeneration, it’s needed. OA is needed in any case, Mark of the Assassin procs on crit
6. Agreed, also wrong side of the sky map, would conflict with Fiend anyway

[OnionCuter]

Then…What is the best option for this build?.. This or this?..

>> Grimtools << no green items used
>> Grimtools << alternative: @mad_lee’s suggested variant with Empyrion

Or a mix of noth?.. I´m not a experinced player and need a bit help… Thanks in advance…

[mad_lee]

Hm. What’s the point? I included your one as alternative immediately and added your video to OP.
Now I plan to test this one, I think it should work similarly. I ran a quick test on lunch and it looks promising.

Just wanted to know if it’s possible to push this build more in terms of clearing times without losing that carefree tankiness. Because I felt that 11 minutes is the best my setup could do. But it was 100% safe and required 0 piloting effort.

Also those suggestions with Fiend and Guardian’s Gaze won’t be effective imo because of devotion paths and how stupid assasin’s mark need to be procced on crit.

In the end it’s the Markovian set that holds the offensive potential of the build back.

PS I personally found that build struggles with aetherials the most that’s I why I preferred Primatic Diamond + 2 chainz instead of double boner.

[Ptirodaktill]

PS I personally found that build struggles with aetherials the most that’s I why I preferred Primatic Diamond + 2 chainz instead of double boner.

Purifier salt is the answer mb? Purifier salt and some %human dmg nodes in assassin?

[veretragna]

Then…What is the best option for this build?.. This or this?..

>> Grimtools << no green items used
>> Grimtools << alternative: @mad_lee’s suggested variant with Empyrion

Or a mix of noth?.. I´m not a experinced player and need a bit help… Thanks in advance…

mad_lee’s version is tankier and faster. Take it asap

Just wanted to know if it’s possible to push this build more in terms of clearing times without losing that carefree tankiness. Because I felt that 11 minutes is the best my setup could do. But it was 100% safe and required 0 piloting effort.

Also those suggestions with Fiend and Guardian’s Gaze won’t be effective imo because of devotion paths and how stupid assasin’s mark need to be procced on crit.

In the end it’s the Markovian set that holds the offensive potential of the build back.

PS I personally found that build struggles with aetherials the most that’s I why I preferred Primatic Diamond + 2 chainz instead of double boner.

Did a quick test with Fiend.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2EG06nZ
Achieved the same clear time as with Bull - 11 minutes.
I’ll upload a fresh video with Bull, Harp and Empyrion and update the OP soon.

[mad_lee]

Purifier salt is the answer mb? Purifier salt and some %human dmg nodes in assassin?

Maybe Purified Salt + non mythical Blood Sigil of Chton. Loosing Seal of Might feels very wrong though.

From my experience tweaking the build it’s the set itself that is the problem. I tried few things, but at the end it felt like 11 minutes is the limit without losing that carefree “I am not kiting you kiting” playstyle.

[mad_lee]

mad_lee’s version is tankier and faster. Take it asap

Did a quick test with Fiend.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2EG06nZ
Achieved the same clear time as with Bull - 11 minutes.
I’ll upload a fresh video with Bull, Harp and Empyrion and update the OP soon.

I like that devotion setup and 11 minutes is good. Except I still don’t like Harp and I think taking just half of crab is a bit pointless, we want that juicy last nod. Maybe replace Harp and ditch half of Crab and take Ghoul + Seal of Blades?

But would probably still be 11 minutes, except more unkillable with Ghoul.

[veretragna]

Except I still don’t like Harp and I think taking just half of crab is a bit pointless, we want that juicy last nod.

Harp is needed because I play MC too with this build. Energy is really tight without Ulzuin in MC, so I’ll leave it.

[Mercymaker]

Maybe Purified Salt + non mythical Blood Sigil of Chton. Loosing Seal of Might feels very wrong though.

From my experience tweaking the build it’s the set itself that is the problem. I tried few things, but at the end it felt like 11 minutes is the limit without losing that carefree “I am not kiting you kiting” playstyle.

11mins with banner and 4 buffs? Or 11mins with no banner?

[mad_lee]

I am talking no banner. For my runs I used aerherward oil tho.

[veretragna]

Well, I spent the entire evening on testing different variations of this build; mad_lee’s, my and Ptiro’s variations have similar clear times (11 minutes), but mad_lee have better tankiness due to Ghoul.
mad_lee’s isn’t unkillable; I died 2 times from combo of 2x Aleks, double meteor is sick.
Will update the OP tomorrow.

[Mercymaker]

I am talking no banner. For my runs I used aerherward oil tho.

Oh ok, cause i managed a 8½mins with banner and 9mins with banner + extra spawns with, well i don’t remember which grimtools link i used in the thread. Was on crucible of the dead

[OnionCuter]

Oh ok, cause i managed a 8½mins with banner and 9mins with banner + extra spawns with, well i don’t remember which grimtools link i used in the thread. Was on crucible of the dead

8 1/2 minutes with this build?.. You should upload your profile here with grimtools…

You have used this one?

>> Grimtools << alternative: @mad_lee’s suggested variant with Empyrion

[OnionCuter]

With Mad´s Lee build, I can´t sustain energy, is there any trick?.. Or I have to use potions all the time?..

[x1x1x1x2]

With Mad´s Lee build, I can´t sustain energy, is there any trick?.. Or I have to use potions all the time?..

On campaign my setup is basically this for all builds:

1. Can you sustain energy without potions? If yes, good. If no, proceed to 2.

2. Can potions sustain your energy? If no, proceed to 3.

3 Do you use a lot of weapon damage? If yes, proceed to 4. If no, proceed to 5.

4. Does adding arcane spark sustain your energy (along with potions) ? If no, proceed to 5.

5. Does adding one ectoplasm do it? If no add one more. If still no then add a third one.

6. Still having energy problems? Throw your build away or do a big revision.

On crucible it’s not a problem cause ulzuin solves mana problems of 90% of builds. Hope it helps.

[veretragna]

Update.
I thought a bit and made this build a true tank.
Now it can clear Crucible 5 times in a row without health potions and any other consumables, and still does it in 11-12 minutes.
And no energy troubles due to Harp and Tree of Life in MC. I really enjoyed this build.

>> Grimtools << no green items used - no bottles, no health potions, no mercy

Stats pane (Deadly Momentum, Overguard up)

Video

//youtu.be/VycKmaOWE6Y

[OnionCuter]

Thanks so much x1x1x1x2…

And veretragna for your new version…

[OnionCuter]

Hey, what is the best stat and order in weapon (Beronath)?..

% to all damage
% crit damage
Ofensive Ability
% Total Speed

[veretragna]

Hey, what is the best stat and order in weapon (Beronath)?..

% to all damage
% crit damage
Ofensive Ability
% Total Speed

All of them are good.
As said before, weapon can be replaced with Warborn Gavel to get nearly the same damage, but it lacks speed and crit damage.

[OnionCuter]

Ok thanks so much