[1.0.6.1] Warpblade - Krieg DW Aether Cadence Death Knight, Gladiator farmer (9 minutes)

[veretragna]

I did check, and the DA should not be an issue on MQ.

It seems like I really need that life potion for my set-up…

DA affects the chance to be hit and this can do the difference too
2700 OA vs 2800 DA = 87.2 PTH
2700 OA vs 3000 DA = 81.5 PTH

[malawiglenn]

DA affects the chance to be hit and this can do the difference too
2700 OA vs 2800 DA = 87.2 PTH
2700 OA vs 3000 DA = 81.5 PTH

True, considering that there are many many things that comes flying towards you in that fight.

I managed to boost DA up to 2.9k now
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/L2Jz0B82

I could get another ingenuity in ring but I want all resistances capped for all purpose stuff in MC.

I will do some more tweeks. Thanks for all the help

[malawiglenn]

BTW I did notice that you bound hourglass to Blitz on the S&B version. I bind it to Krieg wrath so that is 100% chance of activate. On Blitz it has 68% chance.

[veretragna]

BTW I did notice that you bound hourglass to Blitz on the S&B version. I bind it to Krieg wrath so that is 100% chance of activate. On Blitz it has 68% chance.

Blitz has 2.9 seconds recharge, so I don’t care if it procs earlier or later for 2 seconds. I just keep pressing that button all the time and spam Blitz as often as possible

[iFormus]

So i finally dropped a second Mindwarp to try 2w version and i must say that S&B feels much smoother in my case. I use Mark of the Dreadblade instead of Direwolf though. It’s much more forgiving. Dual Wield feels like you have all disadvantages of n&o infiltrators and korba tricksters while no actual advantage, only much weaker rr and killing speed overall.

[veretragna]

So i finally dropped a second Mindwarp to try 2w version and i must say that S&B feels much smoother in my case. I use Mark of the Dreadblade instead of Direwolf though. It’s much more forgiving. Dual Wield feels like you have all disadvantages of n&o infiltrators and korba tricksters while no actual advantage, only much weaker rr and killing speed overall.

Mark of the Dreadblade doesn’t allow to dual wield melee weapons.
Are you certain you play dw setup right now? Because with Mark of the Dreadblade only main weapon is active.

[malawiglenn]

So i finally dropped a second Mindwarp to try 2w version and i must say that S&B feels much smoother in my case. I use Mark of the Dreadblade instead of Direwolf though. It’s much more forgiving. Dual Wield feels like you have all disadvantages of n&o infiltrators and korba tricksters while no actual advantage, only much weaker rr and killing speed overall.

You are comparing DW krieg with the best two (?) Dw melee builds? I think the point of Krieg is that it is easy to farm and is thus a good budget option for new(er) players.

And how do you even dual wield without direwolf? Are you using a relic that enable dualwielding instead?

I love the dw krieg, and without this build thread I would have actually not have thought of that idea lol

[iFormus]

Mark of the Dreadblade doesn’t allow to dual wield melee weapons.
Are you certain you play dw setup right now? Because with Mark of the Dreadblade only main weapon is active.

I expressed myself unclearly. I meant that i unlike you use the Mark in the s&b setup, mostly in order to compensate the att speed loss and fire res bonus besides the raw aether damage and the welcomed reaping strike and cadence bonus.

[iFormus]

You are comparing DW krieg with the best two (?) Dw melee builds? I think the point of Krieg is that it is easy to farm and is thus a good budget option for new(er) players.

And how do you even dual wield without direwolf? Are you using a relic that enable dualwielding instead?

I love the dw krieg, and without this build thread I would have actually not have thought of that idea lol

I am not saying that it is a bad idea or something. I just expected it to be more tanky even without the shield, counting soldier as a basic tank class. But yes, the shield gives really noticeable portion of survivability in this build even though it is not meant to be the best tank overall.

[veretragna]

I am not saying that it is a bad idea or something. I just expected it to be more tanky even without the shield, counting soldier as a basic tank class. But yes, the shield gives really noticeable portion of survivability in this build even though it is not meant to be the best tank overall.

Basically dw setup cannot be compared to s&b because with shield you have Overguard and Will of Menhir. DW setup gives more damage in exchange of survivability. But its damage is superior to s&b.

[malawiglenn]

I still have not managed to kill Lokarr with the DW setup. Tried more than 10 times. I take fire and lightning resistance potion before fight. I am amazed how you can facetank him in 23 seconds. The only DW builds I can facetank Lokarr with involves high rank Inquisitor Seal

[CobraSeven]

This is nice build, how you got 17K HP i have no idea
impressive how u kill lokaar

[veretragna]

I still have not managed to kill Lokarr with the DW setup. Tried more than 10 times. I take fire and lightning resistance potion before fight. I am amazed how you can facetank him in 23 seconds. The only DW builds I can facetank Lokarr with involves high rank Inquisitor Seal

You can try Prismatic Diamond then. It will save you from burn dots just like Seal does
I can’t say I used so much tactics in that fight, but kiting Lokarr doesn’t really lead to any good. If you try to kite with burn applied, that burn will kill you real quick.

This is nice build, how you got 17K HP i have no idea
impressive how u kill lokaar

I guess you looked at Crucible video where I had Blessing of Empyrion granting 80% additional hp.
Screenshots from campaign attached to OP show only 14-15k hp.

[malawiglenn]

You can try Prismatic Diamond then. It will save you from burn dots just like Seal does
I can’t say I used so much tactics in that fight, but kiting Lokarr doesn’t really lead to any good. If you try to kite with burn applied, that burn will kill you real quick.

Yeah the burn just rip him to ashes

EDIT: still no luck with Prismatic Diamond

[Koda]

Can you post a Grimtools for the S&B variation without items boosting the skills?

Also, maybe I’m missing something, but some of those allocations don’t quite make sense to me. What’s the point of all of those points into Soul Harvest? Is the Cold and Vitality damage really that useful with this build? Wouldn’t those points be more useful in something like Blindside for more Blitz damage?

Thanks.

[Nery]

Can you post a Grimtools for the S&B variation without items boosting the skills?

Also, maybe I’m missing something, but some of those allocations don’t quite make sense to me. What’s the point of all of those points into Soul Harvest? Is the Cold and Vitality damage really that useful with this build? Wouldn’t those points be more useful in something like Blindside for more Blitz damage?

Thanks.

The build has conversion, magelord rings for example elemental to aether,so he is adding flat aether damage to every single attack.

[Koda]

The build has conversion, magelord rings for example elemental to aether,so he is adding flat aether damage to every single attack.

That part makes sense, but it only works for 5 seconds after casting Bone Harvest, right? Is it really worth dumping all those points into it and then keeping BH active in the rotation?

What exactly is the ideal rotation for this build?

I feel like there are a lot of skills to try to keep up and condensing the skill point distribution + rotation would increase DPS overall, but I may be completely ignorant about this. I’m pretty new to min-maxing in this game still.

Thanks again!

[Nery]

That part makes sense, but it only works for 5 seconds after casting Bone Harvest, right? Is it really worth dumping all those points into it and then keeping BH active in the rotation?

What exactly is the ideal rotation for this build?

I feel like there are a lot of skills to try to keep up and condensing the skill point distribution + rotation would increase DPS overall, but I may be completely ignorant about this. I’m pretty new to min-maxing in this game still.

Thanks again!

You’re right that Bone harvest needs to be recasted in order to apply buff,it’s not convenient cause disrupt rhythm,but ofc is hard to pass flat damage on melee,it’s too good.As for the skill has some buttons,but most of skills have high cooldown so doubt this build is hard to be piloted.

[gkparker85]

This build has 9 buttons to press in addition to th 3 toggles - the rotation is ridiculously bloated:

-Aether Corruption
-Krieg’s Wrath
-Bone Harvest
-Doomforce
-Mark of Torment
-Overguard
-Warcry
-Blitz
-Cadence

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that. Am I really expected to press all those buttons on every fight? I don’t even use that many buttons in an MMO like WoW. Is there a competitive Death Knight built that has 5 or fewer buttons?

[Nery]

This build has 9 buttons to press in addition to th 3 toggles - the rotation is ridiculously bloated:

-Aether Corruption
-Krieg’s Wrath
-Bone Harvest
-Doomforce
-Mark of Torment
-Overguard
-Warcry
-Blitz
-Cadence

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that. Am I really expected to press all those buttons on every fight? I don’t even use that many buttons in an MMO like WoW. Is there a competitive Death Knight built that has 5 or fewer buttons?

My man Overguard is only shield skill,so you’ll not use it in dw version.Also you can skip Doomforce,and toggles are apply once.That mean 7 buttons including left and right mouse.If you want you can drop some of other skills,but is not recommended.Siphon souls will heal you,BH offers flat damage,aether corruption RR and War cry is for debuff.If you feel you don’t need one of these you can skipped,it’s your call.