[] AAR vs FoI (Deceiver, Mage Hunter, Purifier, Spellbinder, Warlock) (c+) (sr+) (g3)

Huh, I never saw the lightning version before – that looks pretty darn cool :sunglasses:

For the Warlock version i tried to replace the Belt with the modified
Chains of Ygraad
But even if i convert 53 (with my belt) from vitality to Aether, i don’t see more damage on Sigil of consumption.
Sigil of consumption has around 1250 Vitality damage. If half of that is going to be converted to aether then the damage should be higher. I tested it full buffed on the training dummys with the GI DPS List. With and without the debuffs.

@Dirkan can you make video and GT links to build(s) and make bug report?

I am not sure if this is a bug or a missunderstanding from my side.

would still be easier to figure out what is going on if you submit GT links (perhaps a separate thread is appropriate to get more attention)


Created a Vitality/Chaos Voidsoul Deceiver build today; charsheet tells me it has the highest DPS among all my chars while crits are great and resist reduction is decent. Went to Crucible - miserable, miserable damage. Looks like Deceiver deceived me! Did you have such problems?

Not Deceiver the voidsoul set. It is so confusing the conversation on items. + converting a working skill to another and not enough support too.

I didn’t say it is not supported, it is not working.

Hm. I believed I had sufficient RR: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/62ayA8m2
V: 112
C: 67
15% RR
The numbers are the max RR I can apply with all the skills/procs. Vitality is the main damage type here.
Am I wrong?

The worst was the wave 161: I could hardly kill the healers. Nemeses were all surprisingly tough too.

This is empty.

My bad)

Nor the RR either deceiver is bad, the set itself is trash that’s all like the sentinel set. U can put as many rr dmg but still won’t work.

I still can’t understand the magic of numbers here.
My charsheet tells me the DPS should be 200 or 300k (I don’t remember exactly). My DW builds with 100k kill stuff times faster.

Of course, they have WPS, but even with them they should kill as fast as the Voidsoul at best - not be TIMES faster.

Any updates to be made to aether mage hunter version? Or is it still good to roll?

since this is an old build, are there any possible improvements for the AAR warlock ?
link for convenience https://www.grimtools.com/calc/m23JEb4N

ring of tawrot wouldn’t be a better option for either ring, right? damage gets converted only once right?
does this count on any conversion? like the global % conversion and the 100% per skill conversion?
i’m assuming the 100% lightning to vit on AAR conversion of the hat, won’t be converted by the ring of tawrot. am i assuming correct ?

i like this build a lot, but after testing the chaos ray warlock from retal abuser

i’m hoping for some improvements, because i don’t really want to use this, and i’m ok with the other being weaker, but almost 100k more AAR dps is something.


I know this build:

OP variant: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/w26b1Q82
variant tweaked for Crucible: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/aZqwJK62

That one really needs updating, damn

This is a recent aether Warlock from mad_lee for reference https://www.grimtools.com/calc/1NXaqag2

I wouldn’t use my own build nowadays either. Not without convenient devotion proccing changes. Too much of a piano for a spam caster.

well i like the piano builds, so dropping sigil, devastation and/or doom bolt would be a downgrade xD

i swapped to arcanum dust and maybe try to get some of them green pants, stun res would be nice, and with pierce res i could swap in essence of the grim dawn…

thanks for the replies