Who told you that? It will not work, nothing will work with OFF if monster can not be frozen.
yeah you probably did. Now if you have adcth in caster off-hand, THEN it will act globally.
Seal of blades applied to your weapon if its put in off hand.In shields you lose the AdctH.
@Degernase OFF debuffs enemies only if theyāre frozen.
Crate pls fix. Stop crushing my dreams.
Skill would be brokenly OP if you could lower that much fire resistance in one skill 
If something looks too good to be true, it most likely is 
Well with that in mind hereās my super original donut steal Vanquisher Fire Sentinel.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/DV9kDDlN
Could also use the Handguards of Justice to convert Judgement into fire but would take a hefty 80 OA hit (after accounting for OA% bonuses). Though might be something to consider, maybe drop some DA since itās over the 3k mark.
EDIT: Crap I also donāt have the flat RR from Callidorās Tempest any longer. Need to work Elemental Storm into the build.
Will probably try Templar version as well but Sentinel looks pretty appealing knowing that I canāt get that sweet -100% RR against bosses.
I appreciate itā¦ This was actually meant for him in his thread for this build but I was exhausted and didnāt realize I was replying to THIS thread. My apologiesā¦
So I just pushed to SR 65, found it far easier than SR 46-59, not only because map size (really like that Korvan volcano ruin map), but also visibility. I finally found out that Benn actually leaves stones on the ground and those big damage was due to I charging into them. In Logās room you just canāt see it at all.
And as for the skater warlord, while the tankiness is okay it really lacks damage, and after more playtesting I realised that for skater build you really want that feeling of speed more than safety. I can kill a nemesis with my sentinel faster than kill a hero monster with that warlord setup. Now I think I love my sentinel more 
Canāt thank you guys enough. Have learnt so much things since posting this post, literally worth it.
You forget about spirit, with your current setup you need to put 43 points into spirit. But strange, the stats still seem okay to me after doing that.
Also I strongly suggest you find some freeze resists, I havenāt update my build page but I feel far better fighting Moos in SR with some freeze resists. With 0 freeze resist heās totally a pain to deal with, youāll get chain frozen to death without Ascension.
Currently Iām using Handguards of Justice and I think itās actually rather nice, with more points invested in Judgement you get another good source of burn damage, and itās AOE is super big so even if youāre in a tough situation you can still do quite a bit burn damage from a safe distance.
No worries man, Iām happy more people become interested in skater builds
Yeah Iām a retard, spent whole of yesterday evening not noticing its high spirit requirement. I also forgot to add a golden affinity needed for phoenix (I experiment with devotions using the no requirement setting)
How does your Sentinel build currently look like? Because it seemed like you adjusted it a bit based on other posters advice.
Iāve been tinkering with my build(s) and have ended up with 3 different versions.
They all have ratherā¦ monstrous prefixes and affixes on the pants and off-hand but should be perfectly fine with worse versions.
I call my build āA Judgment of Fire and Vireā¢ā
Build 1: Tanky devotion setup with 21/12 Volcanic and 18/12 Tectonic
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/aZqlxRdV
This one looks like the strongest one to me, dropping 4 Tectonic only costs 0.1 second and 33% burn damage. Using Mark of Ulzuin to convert Judgment lets me use the much stronger Wyrmbone Gauntlets and the build has so much DA that skipping Earthshatter Treads isnāt a significant loss.
Build 2: Tanky devotion setup with 22/12 Volcanic and 22/12 Tectonic
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4Vx4QWrV
Compared to build 1 it has a rather significant loss of 140 OA (but gains 40 DA) and further loses 150 armor, 200% fire damage and 120% burn damage.
Build 3: Squishier devotion setup with 22/12 Volcanic and 22/12 Tectonic
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4NOk1A4N
The weakest one. Comparing it to build 2 it loses a whole 150 DA (but gains 20 OA) and further loses 500 armor and 24% reduced targetās damage. But gains 85% fire damage and 140% burn damage.
I thought Meteor Shower was an obvious choice for a fire build but doubting it now. This version can not support the item build used in Build 1 due to its already low DA.
I wanted to post all 3 versions even though Iām pretty sure Build 1 is the strongest just for the sake of documenting some of the changes and to rationalize my choices.
My current build: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/m23Jm6EN
Main changes: changed belt to get both stun and freeze resist, removed those proc-based devotions (harp, chariot, phoenix) and changed to something more stable (ghoul and solemn watcher). And also used Justice hands.
Actually the devotions now are almost identical to x1x1x1x2ās templar except for dropping some resist nodes to get elemental storm. Iām quite convinced that in SR this setup is better than procs in terms of survivability, but not using chariot resulted in some OA issue, so I dropped combustion band for more OA.
Your builds seem far tankier than mine, I feel they are almost completely different concept
I have no idea how they will perform in SR because you went for Empyrion and those tankiness nodes while I mainly tried to get those pure damage procs. Iām actually not so sure about meteor, but I feel fissure really do serious damage. Empyrion looks good for survivability, but sadly it doesnāt have any burn damage.
So I guess your build will feel more like my skater warlord setup, very tough and can safely charge into pack of bosses, but kill stuffs waaaay slower :rolleyes: Which probably is not bad if you want to push to deeper shards. Also not dying in boss rooms actually reduces clear time, so it can still indirectly translate to DPS, which is good.
If youāre going to test them, Iām quite eager to know the results.
BTW if I were you Iāll just softcap Crushing Verdict and Presence of Virtue 12/12 and put those points into Clarity of Purpose. I really like CC resists
Edit: I actually think the third one is the strongest because if you can kill stuffs really quickly you just donāt need that much tankiness 14k HP is already a great improvement in survivability compared to my builds. That resistance is problematic, but I think you can drop those Dreeg augments for resists and get pox+wasting to compensate.
Iām not entirely sure about your choice of skipping Crushing Verdict, DA shred is just so good especially if you feel like your OA is a bit low. Also the Seal of Annihilation having -OA makes Bloody Pox slightly less valuable (as it then technically boosts your -OA by 110). Bloody Pox is still good but consider -110 OA vs 230+ DA shred.
I will report back on my progress but sadly I didnāt have a Sentinel (nor Templar for that matter) ready so Iām in the process of lvling one. Luckily found a pair of Kubacabraās Chausses in a characterās inventory that was recently looted before I even knew those were something I wanted. Mighty of Natureās Bounty, 508 health, 5% physique, 42 OA, 11 health per/s, 12% health per/s and 29% elemental resistance. Could definitely be much worse!
Think I have most other things ready except for the caster OH.
Yeah it is good but Iām always a bit unsure of pumping a ton of points into things with somewhat poor uptime. Though with my 27% CDR it does go down to 18s CD.
You say Build 3 will kill stuff quicker, but will it even be in a significant way?
Build 1 has the following stat advantages: 127 OA, 101 DA, 650 Armor, 106% Fire Damage and 10(!) flat, 12% freeze res
Build 3 has the following stat advantages: 25% Burn Damage and 430 flat, 7% Crit Damage, 7% physical resistance, 18% slow res, 50% petrify res
After that it comes down to Light of Empyrion vs Meteor Shower, obviously the latter wins out on damage (I assume those numbers are per meteor?) but I find it hard to justify skipping all the advantages of build 1 for that alone. Also the 20% targetās damage reduction is huge for survivability.
As for resistances, yes was greedy as fuck but from what I understand you only really need to overcap aether, fire and lightning. Iām hoping that my resistance rolls on the gear is good enough to hit softcap (as GT shows average).
If I do have to sacrifice a Dreeg augment or two, Build 1 is in a much better position to give up on some.
And about Pox+wasting, I feel theyāre a very large investment for a mediocre pay off. Amulet component already gives an okay -70 OA (although less reliably). If I were to reduce some skills it would probably be Judgement but even then Iād rather put them into Clarity of Purpose as you previously suggested.
EDIT: Also I feel as if you overlooked the most important aspect of my build, the name I came up with is 10/10.
No, -OA actually stacks just as -%RR does, so wasting is still doing -180 OA fine. However I do think Crushing Verdict is super good, I just canāt decide where to squeeze those points out. Maaaaaybe from Clarity of Purpose, but I just find myself too dependent to those additional CC resistsā¦
I actually only engage bosses when Ascension is up, otherwise I just skate away and let dots do their work. Fighting only 1 boss is pretty safe with my build, but I really suck at luring just one and often end up fighting all of them altogether, in such cases no Ascension = death :rolleyes:
Your builds seem to have far better defences so maybe you wonāt need Ascension that much. But I still recommend trying to have 80% stun/freeze resist with Ascension even if uptime is poor. Otherwise some dumb combinations like 2 Moos can easily freeze lock you to death.
I can be completely wrong but I think in SR your DPS is almost proportional to the number of burn sources you have. Thatās because you just donāt have that much chances to face skating, and thus have very limited chance to apply direct fire damages.
With those mastery skills you have VM IT->Burn, VM item modifier, Volcanic Stride, Judgment IT->Burn and/or Heart of Wrath, thatās 5 main sources, so adding Meteor roughly increase your DPS by 20%. And by further adding Fissure itās another 20%. Of course their base DPS are very different so itās just a rough calculation, but I think itās probably approximately correct to some degree :rolleyes:
The biggest problem with Empyrion IMO is that you need to get hit by melee, but unless you do a lot of face skating you just donāt have that much chances to proc it. If you can lure them one-by-one then itās probably OK, but I find it very difficult in SR 46-59 with those Log rooms.
But, again, since your build seems tougher than mine you might be able to fight several bosses altogether. Man, this game is just too complicated itās really difficult to predict anything without testing
You know my eyes are just too bad, I didnāt even notice Bennās obsidian stuffs until fighting him again in super bright maps
Nice name, I was going to name mine like Senquisher which is quite dumb I think
Oh yeah I knew that, itās just not very common to interact with multiple deductive debuffs except RR shred so I must have just blocked that fact out of my head.
And CC res is somewhat tough for Sentinel, Templar has it much easier in that regard.
Yeah thatās fair, guess itās something I need to get a feel for by playing the build and noticing its weak points. Will definitely keep an eye out for an insane green weapon like in 1xās build to further increase uptime of it.
Yeah another issue of me not having played the build yet, didnāt really take into consideration that it becomes a rather burn heavy build with Vire and Judgment and of course multiple sources make quite the difference. But then again stacking one without the other (fire and burn) is quite hard so even if the 2 main skills deal burn damage itās okay to use flat fire damage from some source.
I didnāt choose Empyrion primarily as a damage source, rather itās a very strong defensive tool which just so happens to also benefit from fire damage. I donāt want to get hit but when I do take damage, reducing it by 20% is great. Its nodes are also very nice with DA, health, fire damage and resists and due to its affinity requirement it enables me to dip into beastly defensive devotions such as Obelisk of Menhir.
The build is still evolving and Iām at a point where some actual testing is required for me to make decisions on where to take it and what it lacks. Should probably have my Sentinel at 100 tomorrow.
No worries, just yearned for some recognition. Mine is also pretty dumb and basically just a reference but it sounds great. Not to mention that phonetically, the words fit the reference perfectly (well most of it) and also summarizes what the build does very nicely.
So obviously Iām in a crazy love with this Vanquisher set and just theorycrafted an Acid version of Vanquisher Sentinel, posted in another thread by adoomgod about Sentinel of the Three set. I guess I should also quote it here just for reference:
DA, HP and CC resist is a little bit low, but as I mentioned above we get three T3 devotions, with meteor fire damage 98% converted to acid. So as long as it doesnāt die too quickly during fight it should still be able to do some serious damage, despite using the vanquisher set. And I think Yugol proc actually works better for a skater build than a regular build, because it moves slowly and can easily fall behind if you play a regular build.
And we also have 98 -%RR, 28 flat RR and 12% RR for a damage type less resisted than fire, so I actually expect this acid skater can do more damage than my fire one.
Looks like it has potential but it also has a few downsides. Much lower crit damage because no Divine Mandate which is something DoT builds benefit from a lot.
Vire CD only gets down to 0.9-1.0 second which is a bit higher than to let you spam it.
I understand choosing AoM (easy acid conversion) but I feel like if you aim for a DoT build Judgment is much better as it has DA shred and a DoT component of its own. My experience with AoM is that you really need to focus your build around buffing it if you want decent damage.
You only have 50% global fire > acid conversion, I definitely donāt think Meteor Shower is worth getting, but the 10% crit damage and 5% OA are probably worth grabbing.
I think a retaliation build might have more synergy with an Acid Sentinel using AoM and Vire but I get wanting to use Vanquisher, which doesnāt really make it possible.
Nope, I have 98%, you forget the global conversion from Path of the Three
I agree that crit is lame in this build, but I guess thatās the price for using Vanquisher in an acid build. Without DA youāll die, without OA you canāt crit, HP is already not high, CC resists are not capped, and without +% acid/poison damage you have no damageā¦ Really have no additional space to put crit into it, unfortunately.
But if itās fun then Iāll be totally ok
As for VM CD, since I find myself not doing short distance skating at all in SR 65-66 runs (for safety reasons), I think it would be OK. When I tested my skater Warlord itās fine with 22/12 Tectonic Shift+Vanquisher+18% CDR, and this acid Sentinel has more CDR than that (28%).
Edit: and the best part of this build is that I already have all those gears so I can make it immediately if I have the time
Edit2: Aegis vs Judgement: yeah Judgement has good DA shred (and also great AOE), but since we donāt have much crit and already have good OA, I think we probably donāt need it. Also you can actually get a good DA shred from FG mobility skill (e.g. Rune of Dark Progenitor gives 100 flat OA & DA shred), and thereās also Scorpion devotion which gives 150 flat DA shred, so there are many choices without investing in Judgement. Finally, itās really difficult to get both +% acid damage and +Judgement (or more precisely +Heart of Wrath, because we canāt fully convert those physical damage of Judgement to acid) from gears, so I think Aegis is a far better choice in an acid Vanquisher Sentinel build.
Edit3: Idk why but I forgot to put one point in Resilience in that acid build
So I finally managed to borrow a better PC and record a gameplay video for this build Hope this can make more people interested in skater builds. Itās really fun to play with.
You can see me play quite brainlessly in that video, sometimes completely forget casting Pox/CoF/Judgement, but it still performed okay I think. Sometimes I didnāt even charge into the right direction :rolleyes: Shouldnāt drink beer before recording.
Iām actually not sure why I almost got killed by Fabius at 6:43, did I charge into his shotgun or something? I was really lucky to have 216 HP left after that
Iāll probably update other sections this weekend, if the forum isnāt in maintenance that is.
Now this is a beginner guide! I really like the maths too (not sarcasm).
One thing I thought of that might be worth mentioning is that the Vanquisher set is transmutable. So if I farm say SoT for two drops I have a pretty good chance of cutting out PV or AG which are both tougher and longer for my toon.
Depending on the build of your farmer some dungeons are likely to be easier, and a couple of runs of each should tell you which ones.
Thanks! Unfortunately Vanquisher set is NOT transmutable, if you look up them in grimtools it says: āCannot be transmuted into another item from this setā
https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/11753
This also applies to other easy-to-farm sets like Krieg and Dark Ones.
What Udars said. Youāll also find that each piece of the Vanquisher set is specific to a particular dungeon. That GT link to the mantle clearly states it drops from the chest in the Heart of the Forest part of the Ancient Grove so it wonāt drop in any of the other rogue-likes. Same for all the other pieces. To get the complete set youāre going to have to do all the rogues.
Thanks! Unfortunately Vanquisher set is NOT transmutable, if you look up them in grimtools it says: āCannot be transmuted into another item from this setā
https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/11753
This also applies to other easy-to-farm sets like Krieg and Dark Ones.
Dang, my mistake. I did some basic googling, but Iāll check grimtools next time.