[1.1.4.2] (used-to-be) The Undisputed: 6m 150-170 Crucible Gladiator no greens melee Trickster[g3][vid][c+]

[mcquany]

I have sent Ptiro my save folder. It’s up to him to test his ideas, I will be more than happy to include his version.

I am guessing it’s gonna be nerfed but it gives me some ideas for my Belgo Infiltrator. On this build there is nothing to proc for them really, and I doubt they do any damage with 1 point invested.

5 piece Deathmarked is bis. Set bonus is just too insane. This build is the best melee build right now. I would say that DW melee builds top 5 are:

1. This build
2. Malakor Tactician
3. Deathmarked Blademaster
4. Belgo Infiltrator/Blademaster
5. Maybe new Vileblade WH (although it’s not pure melee imo)?

No idea where JoV is, maybe some of the old timers might know.

Yes, 5 piece is bis.

how would you rank the top DW builds now that more builds are developed?

I’m still guessing DM lol, but which DM? BM, Infil or Trickster?

Make sure to look at Nex and Ortus builds as well, I’ve seen Saboteur, Spellbreaker, Infiltrator even Trickster utilizing that godly pair of swords.

I’m counting on you to make a good ranking list.

Hail DW!

[mad_lee]

how would you rank the top DW builds now that more builds are developed?

I’m still guessing DM lol, but which DM? BM, Infil or Trickster?

Make sure to look at Nex and Ortus builds as well, I’ve seen Saboteur, Spellbreaker, Infiltrator even Trickster utilizing that godly pair of swords.

I’m counting on you to make a good ranking list.

Hail DW!

1. John Smith’s MEGAKILLER N&O\Rimetongue Infiltrator
2. My Old Man Korba
3. Veretragna’s Deathmarked Infiltrator
4. This DM Trickster/N&O+Rimetongue Trickster (similiar gear to number 1 build)
5. DM Blademaster

[mad_lee]

So big mistake not using Mythical Iceskorn Gloves on this: better EVERYTHING. Build already converts damage on two wps and flat cold we get from Lethal Assault is bigger than the one we get from converting Pierce. So updated Grimtools link accordingly.

[Haizou]

Skills and Devotion setup

I chose somewhat conservative devotion setup without Dying God proc or Blizzard. Build dishes out insane amounts of damage already and with amazing stats from Revenant piloting is much smoother and easier. Same with skill points allocations, I chose to overcap Shadow Dance for additional DA and dodge/evade. You can choose a more agressive skill/devotion setup or even more defensive one depending on your skill and preference.

Hey,
i have a question relating the devotion setup.

When i look at ur Affinities, you have

4 Ascendant
8 Chaos
10 Eldritch
2 Order
16 Primordial

That looks good, but here comes the odd part for me, thats why i ask…

Rhowan’s Crown requires
4 Ascendant
6 Eldritch

and gives
1 Ascendant
1 Eldritch

That means:
Without the 1 Ascendant from Rhowan’s Crown you should have 3.

But then you havnt the required 4 Ascendant.

Did i forget something or havnt i seen something there?
Im asking because i dont get it and because im a bit confused.

Maybe its because im new here and to the game but then its even better to know my mistake.

[mad_lee]

You can remove points at special NPCs. So for example you have 3 purple affinities, but you need four for Rhowan’s Crown. So you put one point in Crossroads, fill Rhowan’s Crown, now number of purple affinities you have is 5. So you remove 1 affinity from Crossroads, boom, you have four. In a way Rhowan’s Crown is sustaining its own bonus.

[Haizou]

You can remove points at special NPCs. So for example you have 3 purple affinities, but you need four for Rhowan’s Crown. So you put one point in Crossroads, fill Rhowan’s Crown, now number of purple affinities you have is 5. So you remove 1 affinity from Crossroads, boom, you have four. In a way Rhowan’s Crown is sustaining its own bonus.

Ahh ok. There was my mistake.

Thank you very much

[Langrizar]

Veregranta, на форуме я видел, что Вы можете вести беседу и на моем родном языке, а так как мне легче изъясняться на нем, продолжу вести беседу на русском. Во - первых хочу поблагодарить Вас за своевременный ответ. Во - вторых лишь стоило мне с ним ознакомиться, как сразу возник встречный вопрос. В предложенном билде (this build by John_Smith в Вашем предыдущем сообщении) почему-то используется созвездие Aeon’s Hourglass и, следовательно, скилл Time Dilation на сокращение кулдауна активных навыков. В связи с этим и возникает логический вопрос, а что ему сокращать? Активных навыков с длительным временем восстановления то и нет… Прошу Вас пролить свет на данный казус. В-третьих хотелось бы спросить, правда ли созвездие Dying God с его Hungering Void настолько имбалансное? Что его используют все кому ни лень несмотря на то, что виталити и хаос бонусы пропадают (в том же билде от John_Smith, например).
Постскриптум: Искренне надеюсь, что не сильно утомлю Вас этими глупыми вопросами, но тем не менее все же смею надеяться на обстоятельное разъяснение.

[Narago]

Your guide is really nice but can you add a leveling part please?

[mad_lee]

Your guide is really nice but can you add a leveling part please?

I have leveling guides for Nightblades in some of my guides, I don’t post them everywhere. Just search these forums, there is plenty of info on how to level.

[mad_lee]

[1.1.4.2] Update

Revived this old spec somewhat. Build is a fast melee killer, but you have to play very agressive with it and kill dangerous targets fast. It’s fun and powerful but it’s not a tank by any means.

Updated the guide and added a video of a very lucky 5:44 Crucible run video.

[Nery]

Wow, that’s incredible time! Trickster is overall faster than Infiltrator…

[mad_lee]

Yeah, yours is the fastest tho (one with fantasy greens).

But it’s not a fun char to play. Somewhat squishy, relies purely on damage and adtch (despite all those defense) and bit too many buttons to press.