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Meh he is easy. 
Face tank ? im running the entire fightâŚ
and yet, its still very much possible to do that AND kill him:
Build used in video:
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/D2p0bAy2
Seriously you people who bitch about Grava need to learn to dodge his fucking attacks, the orbs alone double hit for enough damage to outright burst your entire hp pool instantly, but noooo if it canât be facetanked itâs bad design, which by the way move so goddamned slow you can make them hit terrain and pop harmlessly, as I do numerous times in that video. I also donât stand in the chaos pools that shred 40% of your chaos resist. dodge everything, move in to attack when you have openings, what you and everyone else like you doesnât understand about this is beyond me.
The thread was not to complain about anything else than the fact he can debuff everything which is a lil OP:eek: and nothing else except the debuffing skill he has
and? again, move out of the chaos pools. his hp reduction aura? ALL Rylok Oppressors have that, as do Aetherial Regurgitators, which by the way can be dispelled.
seriously donât know why you complain so much, every boss has debuffs, Gravaâs arenât even that extreme.
and if weâre talking about his nullification, I dont even think he used it on my at all in the video, or if he did I probably blocked it with terrain
All you did in that video was run around, wait for Mirror to pop up, use it, rinse and repeat. Excellent strategy for mastery combos who donât have Mirror :rolleyes:
Even if the nullification projectiles are easy to avoid, he shouldnât have nullification in the first fucking place. Yeah, letâs give nullification to a Nemesis, top notch idea.
The only thing VERY OP about him is the fact that i wake up i dont have absolutley no skill/buff/potion/nothing on, even during the mirror effectâŚthose are skillsâŚa char/classâs mastery base skillsâŚand if u are not with ur eyes on grava and on quickslot bar u die cause u dunno wtfâŚ
This should not even be possible in any game on anything, the only motive i âcomplain itâ is cause he is also an OP enemy without the fact that he can unskill my skills.
Which i agree, he is a nemesis, and i like him there powerful, but without that dubuff/nilification/unskilling skill he has. Thats is just a bad ideeaâŚ
well considerinâ if I take his attacks head on Iâd lose a fuckton of hp Iâm obviously not gonna sit there and get hit.
I keep seeing this from people (including you) without ever seeing an argument as to why itâs a bad thing that dangerous enemies areâŚdangerous.
Because in a game where 90% minimum of builds rely on buffs to increase pretty much everything, having an enemy that can just strip that away, forcing you to back off and rebuff is a terrible design choice. Not to mention it also deals heavy damage on top of it.
In Loxmere is fine, heâs weak as paper. In Arcane heroes is fine, they made of paper. But Grava isnât made of paper and in Loxmere and Arcane heroes cases, it doesnât even deal damage. Not to mention everything else he does, ranging from dealing heavy damage, fumbling melee and ranged and lowering your total health by 28% and total speed by 20%.
I have a great idea: weâll make a game where pretty much every character relies on a bunch of buffs to be viable against anything above white enemies, then give one of the hardest enemies in the game a way to effectively take away 20-40 skill points and 1-4 gear slots by instantly destroying those buffs! Cool!
Thereâs a wide gulf between âwell designed difficultlyâ and âpoorly thought out gimmicksâ. Making a game so ridiculously skewed towards defenses and buffs that grant them and then making an enemy that just strips off all your defenses is shabby design that demonstrates a lack of understanding of several key areas of good game design.
Iâd love to see most of you people whining about Grava play any game that relies on reflexes. If you think an ability that moves as slow as a fat guy at a gym is hard to avoid, faster paced games want a talk with you.
A friend of mine who has maybe 60 hours into GD and 3 100s can easily kill Grava without dying.
Canât people fucking read? Itâs easy to avoid but he SHOULDNâT have nullification in the first place.
Aight, why? If itâs easy to avoid then itâs no problem. Stop complaining about a thing that isnât even an issue.
By this idiotic logic, if he had a skill that one shot you regardless of defenses but if it was easy to avoid, then it would be fine. :rolleyes:
And again, another person asks âwhyâ when i have a post in this very page explaining why. Itâs like people are selective about what they read to make their arguments seem to have any ground to stand on.
âIsnât even an issueâ when itâs known to one shot through Mirror and Blade Barrier. But keep believing it isnât an issue.
Did you actually fight him yourself? I have, killed him several times, when he was much stronger. And even after that, he shouldnât have nullification, period.
Youâre not really trying to prove a point as to why he shouldnât have it. People have pointed out itâs easy to avoid as long as you pay attention. itâs bad for him to have it because itâs an inconvenience for you back off and let them hit something other than you, or worse, just eat the orb and reapply everything in the worst case scenario?
You Say it makes your buffs meaningless and/or a waste of investment, but you also say it IS easy to avoid. Really your argument boils down to âthis ability is inconvenient and I donât like it, get rid of itâ
and noting this: orbâs null effect shuts these off before it deals damage, trying to use these skills to save you is foolhardy at best
Losing your buffs isnât an âinconvenienceâ, they are the thing a ton of builds rely on. Itâs just as bad as if he had the ability to remove your equipment to your inventory, forcing your to reequip them. Meaning during that short period of time, you are far more vulnerable than you usually are, leaving him an huge opening to straight up kill you.
It doesnât matter if itâs âeasyâ to avoid, it could be the easiest thing to dodge in the world, he still shouldnât have it.
Yes, it would be fine, because it could be avoided. Is this your first game or something? One-shot attacks that are avoidable arenât new.
An ability that removes buffs if it hits, removing buffs if it hits? :rolleyes:
Iâve fought(and killed) Grava plenty of times, as has a newbie I know. Neither of us has had any problems. He really is not an issue.
Yes he one shot me during my mirror - cause he debuffed everything i had on, including mirror, and one shot me practicly 0.30 sec after i activated it. if my defense skill wont protect me, even those that make me invincible 3 secâŚthan this is similar to a bug.
So what if u are a new player, that means the payer is the fault ? Never. An OP enemy in game given an EXTREMELY OP skill is not good. Is very bad as an ideea.