If I am unable to do gladiator 130-150, what is the other alternative? My gear is not up to your standard quite yet. 41k dps/2.5k OA / 2.4k DA / 1.9k armor w/ 100% absorb and 30%+ overcapped on all resists except stun which is 69% and physical resist which is 27%.
Maybe I just need more practice and to position better? Let me know if I should be able to do gladiator with those stats.
Thank you for your time and your guide! It was awesome, my only suggestion would be to copy the advice you give in the middle of this thread on devotion leveling and/or skill ordering for leveling and throw them in the main post of the guide, I wondered the same stuff myself and eventually found it. THANK YOU!!
Sorry to hijack the thread. It just so happens I got time to reply so I will.
Tower, yes, it’s solemn watcher. It gives DA which is quite important at higher levels of crucible taking into account the number of hits you take. Keeping DA over 3000 is highly advisable especially when you don’t have much experience in piloting. If you still feel like you die too much I’d even go further east with devotions and try to pick up the bottom nodes of Menhir.
Mythical Open Hand of Mercy and Mythical Closed Fist of Vengeance.
Keeping stun res at 80 isn’t that crucial IMO. 50 is enough unless you wanna be super safe. DA, OA are low. Don’t beat yourself up on not being able to clear gladiator all the way to 170. Only fully specced endgame toons can do it and only with some skill applied. There’s a good guide on piloting Crucible somewhere in this forum.
IMO Crucible is best for farming gear even on lower difficulties. Second best option is farming roguelikes.
Try to farm Challenger (up to 150 wave). It’s much easier (you have extra resists, and enemies have weaker stats), though rewards are considerably lower as well.
Dont even try 151-170 on Challenger - they’re actually harder than 130-150 Gladiator, and rewards are lower (lol).
Mythical Open Hand of Mercy / Mythical Closed Fist of Vengeance.
I avoided them earlier cause they’d drop OA a bit too low, but with changes to Crucible in latest patches, they’re a valid option for Crucible now (i still wont advice them for campain due to too low OA).
With Blessing of Ulo, even 47 Stun Resist is enough in Crucible, as it turns into 80% cap. Same for slow resist and other CC resists.
Well, for me it was so obvious, that you can learn some devotions temporary to gain required affinity, and then refund devotion points to make a proper build, that i didnt felt any need to mention it (and guide through it).
BTW, i learned Bard’s Harp to fix any energy problems, and even forgot, which key an energy potion is bound to. I really dont like to drink it on regular basis…
Open/closed ringset will up both oa and da as well as cast speed on this build at the cost of rr and %phys and some res. Toprolled, the set gives 150+8% oa and about 60+8%da (unless you don’t kill anyone for 10 seconds which never happens in Crucible).
I’m not saying it’s better. Just an option to consider for crucible.
I have Forcewave character too, and my conclusions were similar: Judicator Seals are BiS. Matriarch + Coven Storm Seal having totally 10% RR and 180% more phys boost are not even similar to Judicators’ performance.
What do you do when you get a fabius + Iron maiden spawn on same wave? 100% uptime on war cry and they still can get lucky and just burst me 100 to 0. Is there any consumable we could use or something incase we get unlucky to have both spawn on the same wave?
I facetank them, obviously :). Even if there’re 2x Fabius + IM, or Fabius + 2x IM. Sure, i use consumables when things seem to go bad.
Sorry, forgot their exact names, but you can see all them in video in OP. There’re:
Lifesteal consumable w/o CD (faction)
Aether resist consumable w/o CD (faction)
75% fumble aura consumable (faction) - VS Fabius/IM, it makes wonders!
Armour/DA consumable (faction)
75% damage absorb consumable with huge CD (rare drop from Aether clusters) - when things get REALLY the shittiest way.
And there is an extra “spare” slot for whatever consumable you want to use. I used faction cosumable, that reduces resists, though it isnt really effective, i should admit.
Any tips for Lokarr with this build? I can’t seemingly face tank him like I can triple nemesis bosses
edit: Only died once out of 6 or 7 attempts, as many as it took me to farm up the set for an alt. Just had to kite a bit, not stand in tornados and wait on war cry to stand and trade blows, but damn it feels punishing to run away from this guy. My fire is so overcapped and base at 84 and all that fire still destroys me.
I also wanted to ask you, do you rotate your rebuke into your rotation at all? (the active skill on weapon). I know it has a DA debuff associated with it according to the tooltip, so it would make sense to use it…
I didnt tried Lokarr, actually. If you dont have enough %ADCTH to facetank him (and i suspect, you’ll need a LOT VS solo boss) - just kite him, this build CAN perform kiting as well (even though he facetanks most of encounters).
I dont use Rebuke, i found it not worth my time/efforts, nor skillbar slot. It’s a melee ability, and it’s not convenient to use it as (technically) caster build, that uses medium-range abilities. I’d put another useful consumable on my skillbar instead.
And its damage isnt even as bonker as it might look like. With all that nasty “fumble” found in Crucible, all “attack” skills miss every second time.
As for DA debuff, Blitz+Blindside already provide that debuff, with much higher numerical value. Also, that debuf can proc from all weapon hits as well.
Now testing some new setups, but it would require time. From what i can say now, you might want to put last point into Revenant devotion (since skellies now have 25 resist reduction on hit) and switch to Oleron’s Rage instead of Possession.
After all, i dont think any of new items, or even augments can be worthy for my build… Well, maybe Bysmiel’s faction 2-h weapon augment, but it’s kinda on par with one from AoM.
All three classes WL,WB and DK are strong and bring something to the table.That’s why I wanted to try Warlord,so we can see how different classes work.Your Witchblade is nice!
Overall, i came to a concludion, that Warlord is also viable, and is even better offensively a bit, but defensively, WB is a bit better due to extra phys and poison resist.
Also i’m able to kill Callagadra even in Ultimate (though it’s boring). Will post a video soon.
A link to video: https://youtu.be/DvrizP4h1hk
What setup were you using? I figured out this today, Gladiator’s distinction belt and second rite for flat phys and trauma damage (and it has a nice granted skill for 2h). A bit less HP, more armor, almost double weapon damage, capped Forcewave, 40% more forcewave damage, other stats similar. It should be able to compete with the warlord version both in offenses and defenses, it looks good on paper at least, I will test it soon.
