So with the 1.1.9.2 changes to Krieg,it makes it look more interesting for an aether battlemage
I’m curious what wep would best support such a build?maybe with Lucius sword or https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8794 even?
And rending force gets its pierce changed to physical,so…what ability would best suit this? Forcewave? Blade Arc?or maybe even Cadance with the aether conduit convertion?
Check this out, has some endgame setup at the end:
Krieg gives Attack Speed and bonus to Reckless Power and Lucius gives Attack Speed to Reckless Power so I don’t think Casting Speed Forcewave is the way to go.
Anyway, I played Fantasy Aether Forcewave Death Knight https://www.grimtools.com/calc/aZqMEJ8Z
and it was not mindblowing so I don’t think FW Krieg Battlemage is worth it, even with those buffs 
yeah,a real shame with the casting speed thing for forcewave,you do get a lot of it as battlemage anyways,but all that attack speed from lucius is wasted,maybe there is a different aether wep?
also dont see attack speed for reckless power on krieg,unless im blind or i missed in patch notes
and does the rending force change from pierce to physical not mean a huge boost to forcewave convertion in aether?
Also my thinking with forcewave over blade arc is…forcewave has more weapon %,and more physical damage that can be converted,blade arc brings in a bunch of wasted bleed dmg
Hmmm this beginner build Krieg Battlemage has max casting speed anyway
hah yeah,still it just feels bad seeing that huge attack speed going to waste 
https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8783 might do the trick for Forcewave. Full conversion + %Casting Speed with good rolls.
dont see that wep being worth,Lucius rols with casting speed often anyways,and the weapon proc itself is bonkers
i guess i just have to wait for patch and see if the rending force change makes it all the more stronger than blade arc
also,does stuff like flat aether damage even affect forcewave?or is it considered a spell?
It has %WD, so yes.
I’m not sure anymore, maybe it can be good now in this setup. Btw if you decide to play it, you can mod it to look like this which was the whole point for me of me making the Aether FW I mentioned. You won’t have Aether RE though.
wow that looks amazing,the sound of forcewave also is kinda weak,not meaty and…physical hiting enough i guess
I change its sound too, I can’t stand the default one.
Well, either cast or attack speed will go to waste. 
Or actually both if you go for pure aether Blitz. I like the idea of aether FW although you need plenty of skill points for your nodes and items with them usually don’t support aether. BA it’s easier to cap main skill and Cadence have some aether support+Zolhan, very good WPS skill for 2H melee build.
yeah you are right ofc the overcapping thing is proly more common than i ever bothered to notice
and yeah,forcewave does have that downside of needing more points,and you already want a bunch of stuff in arcanist
i just found it odd that i never made a battlemage…when arcanist and soldier are my 2 fave solo masteries
also i just realised,battlemage has some INSANE casting speed…reckless power,mental alacrity and squad tactics,kraken is also getting buffed this patch wow
You can also check this one out [WIP] Beginner's Lazy Battlemage Diary although it’s not full Krieg
Also Fleshwarped core has this advantage of being sold by Hyram so you can great affixes quickly I guess by restarting the session.
oh yeah,that wep can roll with a bunch of amazing stuff,my reply to Willnoword was pretty ignorant haha,sorry
also…how has haunt not been nerfed? i see it used in way to many endgame builds with aether,juggernaut also feels insane for lvl 35
just started lvling this build to try this setup out and a +5 forcewave shamblers just droped with a laundry list of resistence kekw
btw in those builds you linked,wouldnt Terrify be a good addition for the RR?
There are other sources of Reduced Target’s Resistances in these builds and they don’t stack, the highest one applies.