Badge of Mastery feels a bit dated and deserves some needed love & attention

I had a nice lil talk with @tqFan on discord about BoM…


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…and since I don’t want to be murdered by Zantai or any of my builds I’m going to post this here instead. :grin:


As the title already suggests BoM is imo in need of a bit of love or even in need of an upgraded version to Mythical Badge of Mastery.

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If we have a look at the current BoM the bonuses dont feel very appealing to justify ever using it over any blue, purple or decent green craftable or MI medal and getting semi desired +level bonuses is a nightmare to put things kindly +it’s crafting cost for that it offers is too high imo.

Possible solutions to make it more attractive would be:

  1. Greatly improve the % all dmg bonus to ~120% like most other purple medals, add a small flat life mod with ~200-400 HP & a small amount (~5) as/cs% and buff the proc (since it even sadly is an on death effect) have perma uptime with either 10 sec recharge & 10 sec duration or 15 sec recharge & 15 sec duration.
    Another possiblity would be to keep as is but make the proc a % chance on attack.

  2. The second idea I’d like to suggest (and the one I personally would prefer best here tbh) is adding a Mythical Badge of Mastery.
    The M. Badge could look something like this:

  • ~125% all damage.
  • ~ 3-5% oa %.
  • ~ -15% phys/cun/spi req. for ALL weapons :exclamation:
  • ~ 30% ele. res.
  • ~ 5% total speed.
  • ~ 500 hp.
  • Keep it’s proc but with already above mentioned adjustments.

…and now the real kicker:

  • ~ +5 to the granted, randomly chosen two skills BUT it should be IMPOSSIBLE to obtain a +10 for obv. reasons. :bangbang:

Something like this would make BoM finally be a nice endgame money sink & an item that might actually be desireable for certain builds.

Cheers, Mergo! :clinking_glasses:

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It’s almost like it didn’t get a level 94 version for some reason…

…for some weird reason current BoM also isn’t used like EVER in any decent build.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe it’s cuz current BoM is rly freaking bad and not desireable to use at all! :wink:

Or, like Zantai implied, it’s not meant to be used. It’s basically a legacy item at this point.

Why tf even still have it in the game if it’s not “meant” to be used anyways?! :roll_eyes:

EDIT: Imo the idea of BoM is a rly good one but, again, imo needs some attention & reason why I made this post.

Because keeping it in the game is much easier than having to go out of your way to delete it and its blueprint from the game?

fair point, mine still stand as well tho.

Uh, yes, exactly?

Uh yes which is rly sad & the whole reason I made this thread in the 1st place.

Or am I missing / Did I miss something and a BoM 2.0 is on the way?

It’s not, because this is a vanilla item and we had no plans to bring it back into relevance.

In that case I would kindly ask of you guys at Crate to please reconsider that decision cuz as already stated to Norzan:

I just rly like the idea behind it & would LOVE to see it being actually useful. :frowning_with_open_mouth:

alright, guess i’m gonna be the contrarian: BoM is fine
why is it fine, because +5 skills is big when you can “cheerypick” those - and yes i know the absurdity of cherrypicking skills when trying to craft legit, but i think that’s the point
it’s basically like an MI medal with +2class prefix on it, which is also hugely RNG
the stats themselves on BoM are actually not that horribly “low” that it makes for a bad medal, and can be worth to put in a build if the goal is simply to hardcap X skill
the main issue, aside from huge RNG from non GDstash crafting, is that a lot of skills is not represented on BoM, which means you can’t even use that to then hardcap YZ skills
^whether or not that’s fair is not for me to determine since it would also technically just increase the RNG if more skills got included

overall i think BoM is fine in serving as a gimmick build item, and as such doesn’t need to be upgraded to fit into modern day endgame builds or meme metas, it’s a niche medal for a niche purpose and as such i think it does its niche job ok

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That is actually something I forgot to add to the table but thanks for pointing that out! :+1:
I also respect ur opinion on the matter and can see where ur coming from.
Still I think that BoM is too much RNG as it is in it’s current state & as already said boni feel underwhelming to me.

I very much appreciate your feedback and thoughts on the matter tho! :partying_face: :+1:

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Which is actually bad because you can miss / forget about it when filtering for 80+ level items. Some people might not know it exists for this reason.

Do I need to nerf it so you leave the past in the past? Lol.

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#WorkingAsIntended

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So you would rather take the time to nerf it rather than actually make it a decent item?

Big oof! :roll_eyes:

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Yes.

BoM is better dead than alive.

“We fixed the issue by removing the item from the game.”

YIKES!
Like actually…

I kindly disagree.

Also I think Zantai can answer for himself & doesn’t need you as a spokesperson. :wink:

He absolutely can and already has. :wink:

Edit:

So here’s the thing.

The desired fix to BoM is not to keep it the way it is but make the numbers bigger.

The ‘fix’ is to rework the item to be generically good but less RNG-heavy.

So sure, they can ‘fix’ Badge of Mastery and make the name appear on modern builds. But it won’t be the item you see right now or suggested it should be.