You are probably right. The thing does puke out some good damage though. I should give it a run in the crucible, not that it is my thing really. Perhaps I should be looking at RE, although I prefer the sexy effects of BWC better 
Ok so I dumped BWC and it’s simpler to play (fewer buttons). I kill dummies faster but the bad guys seem to do a bit more damage. On balance, easier to play Points to flame touched
you could have kept BWC, getting the dmg reduct, oa shred and flat RR
and then just have removed ill omen and siphon souls instead
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True thing GI. I will try this. I’ll Omen is annoying as it needs a target, I will tinker and test
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/mN4x7b5N
I have taken your advice @Gnomish_Inquisition and cut Ill Omen and Siphon Souls in favour of BWC and the result is a much easier playstyle with all the power of the original. Thanks !!
Nice 
, but if I may offer suggestions definitely try to incorporate 2x Mirrors in chest + helm (tho diamond is nice defensively) and Ravager’s Eye aug in wep + offhand.
That low DA frightens me 
Also… I am not sure how this is possible, but… GT shows this:
While possible completion bonuses on mog’s ardor are:
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Thankls for the tip on the components @Maya ! I will try it … The Relic I made in GDStash so I don’t know about the completion bonus thing, I will delete it and make another one without the completion bonus.
The DA is low I guess, I don’t feel too glassy running around but perhaps the high damage output papers over the cracks … everything seems to die pretty quick
As always, very happy for your help with the build
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you can set GDstash so it only allows legit completion bonuses in the config page towards the bottom
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Btw, if you have time to experiment, this may or may not be helpful: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/b280eyq2 (I threw it together in GT and not really experienced with skeleton defilers, so don’t know how it will go. But still…)
(OA is low, but Voidheart is the only thing depending on it. To be honest, I’d prefer another Voidwhisper there instead… OR can change jewelry augment for more OA as well: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/RVvzL3EV)
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Done !! Legend, great tip
How does this work in “real life”? I mean the mines indeed have some nice chaos resistance, but you gotta have the enemies walk over them. And they tend to go for you straight away, so you just drop the minis and make the skeletons attack everyone around you?
Also just feels weird doing a chaos damage build and not use the Occultist. Where do you get your +% Chaos damage from?
Good questions @BB_Shockwave !!
The Occultist version would be stronger i think. I also have a Cabalist which is heaps stronger damage wise. The skellies are great (along with the reap spirits) but they are bound to the lost souls set, without this the skellies are a lot weaker. Levelling I used fire (Korvaak’s burning blade and the Zarthu book) pretty much up to level 94 which was great and worked well. There is not a great deal of “chaos only” damage boost on this version but it seems to work well. I am sure that if you wanted to go deep in SR or the Crucible then it will feel lacking, I will give it a try and let you know how I go (but I am not that interested in such things so I might not be very good at it. I will try).
The gameplay is like this … on contact with the bad guys the skellies tend to hold the bad guys in place, so like there’s usually just one logical place to mine (and BWC). If that happens to be right in your face that’s ok too, just drop the mines at your feet. The mines and BWC are just debuffs, they don’t do much damage. I tried walking around without the pets and it was pretty tedious. I did the tomb of the eldritch sun but damage was weak as. So the vast bulk of the damage is from the pets, so mainly converted from vitality and physical. Never took much damage though, and I got so bored I resummoned everything before fighting the bosses.
I will do a video to show gameplay
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Yeah, I have ideas for a Chaos damage+summoner build myself, mostly as I had a Pyromancer character who was my very first made during alpha, and she turned out to be a crappy summoner (this was before Shaman was available as a class). I just don’t feel like deleting her so wanted to turn her into a hybrid damage/summoner. Also kinda wanted to do a build using the Mythical Unholy Covenant set.
Ah so you used that fire blade, indeed that is another interesting conversion for a demolitionist.
My main issue with summoner hybrid builds is that as soon as I start to damage the enemy, they abandon the minions and rush to attack me. So it requires a lot of running around hence why I found the hard to aim molotov cocktail and the stationary mines are hard to use.
Thanks for the video, curious how this looks like.
I have some summoner build ideas myself, but getting a character to 94th level takes time, still need to get my Ghol build up too.
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Yeh awesome
This is essentially what I was building before @gargabolo posted! :
It is a cracking build, great fun. This is fire which works great, when garg posted i thought “I wonder if i can pivot and use chaos instead, hell fire mine is just so good for chaos RR” and found some great items which help the build so much!
Haha yes that’s half the fun The bad guys don’t stand still but !!good news!! There doesn’t seem to be any cool down for mines so just redrop them ! Also good is the 1 point I put in the blightfiend as it seems to do a good job attracting the bad guys. 1 point meat shield ! Just drop back behind the front line if things get tough. With 23k hit points and blastshield you are pretty safe! And prismatic diamond!
A bit disappointing … I did some Crucible testing and didn’t get much further than wave 50. Not sure if it is me or the build, it’s my first real foray into the Crucible. Probably a bit of both.
So what does the build look like right now?
A BWC build should have solael’s witchblade devotion in it and procced by it, otherwise the dmg is way too low. this probably requires sacrificing typhos since skeletons already have lots of phys res and pickup stats elsewhere. Can’t say it will fix the build ultimately the lost souls set wants the player to do vitality dmg for a hybrid, otherwise the player doesn’t get any +% dmg. I would probably try improvising with greens instead of the set but that is long and complicated proces, without assurances for succes.
Maybe the player can be outfitted with heavy chest armor and tank himself and remove blightfiend, so that makes it easier to remove typhos.