[Damage reduction] from enemies to me

[dabadabada]

Hey all.

As for the [damage reduction] mechanism [from me to the enemy].
I understand the following thread.

Damage Reduction effects

Mechanics of damage reduction In the game there are 4 types of damage-reducing settings: Percentage of total damage (X% reduced target’s damage) - red pictogram of a broken sword Absolute Total Damage (X reduced target’s damage) - red icon of a broken sword Physical damage percentage (X% reduced Physical target’s damage) - yellow icon of a broken sword Percent of elemental damage (X% reduced Elementall target’s damage) - blue pictogram of a broken sword They all work exactly the same way l…

• [damage reduction] in the same notation format don’t stack.
• Only the maximum value for [target damage type] is valid.

But, for [damage reduction against me from multiple enemies].
I’ve heard of that damage reduction getting stuck.
Why is that mechanism?

Anybody who knows the specifics of this mechanism,
I would be very grateful if you could tell me.
Please.

[dabadabada]

In detail, the information I heard was explained as follows.
(I don’t know the specification inside.)

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• Actually, the [damage reduction] is stackable,
  But when I use it to enemy,
  it doesn’t stack because it originates from the same single source, [= the player].
• If multiple enemies use to me it,
  it stacks because it originates from a separate source, [= each enemy].

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[Nery]

I am not sure for enemies but for the player it doesn’t stack from different skills, even if they are different sources.

So basically two possible scenarios:

• Damage reduction stacks if you’re simultaneously hit from two or more enemies DR skills. Same enemy/same skill from different enemies won’t stack.

• If two or more enemies hit you with damage reduction at same time, only highest source will be applied in the duration of the skill.

[dabadabada]

• Damage reduction stacks if you’re simultaneously hit from two or more enemies DR skills. Same enemy/same skill from different enemies won’t stack.
• If two or more enemies hit you with damage reduction at same time, only highest source will be applied in the duration of the skill.

Ya,From what I’ve heard recently, the explanation was that.

• If a player takes damage reduction from “two different types of enemies” at the same time, the effect stacks up.

But, I haven’t been able to actually verify this explanation accurately myself.
So if there is someone on the forum who knows the exact mechanism, I was curious to hear it.
(Like the calculation source code inside the game.)
Would it be possible for me to find it myself using the mod tool?

[DenisMashutikov]

Just checked it with mod:
2 different skeletons with 2 different skills with 20% and 10% Total Damage Reduction (% Reduced target’s Damage for 5 Seconds) attack player.
Regardless of the order of taking damage, Reductions don’t stack and works higher.
In General Damage Reduction mechanic same as for Resistance Reduction, so only debuffs incliding “-x% damage” parameter could be stack if exist.

[dabadabada]

Regardless of the order of taking damage, Reductions don’t stack and works higher.
In General Damage Reduction mechanic same as for Resistance Reduction, so only debuffs incliding “-x% damage” parameter could be stack if exist.

Oh, thank you so much for taking the time to check it out with the mods!

I’m very happy because what was unclear is now simple and clear.
If anyone has the same questions in the future, I will share this with them.

[klasperstanze]

“Reduced damage %”, like with War Cry or Empyrion don´t stack, of course. Cause its “reduced”, same as with RR.
But i did think that damage reduction stacks in a way of

“reduced damage %”
+
“less damage from undead”, etc.

[dabadabada]

But i did think that damage reduction stacks in a way of

“reduced damage %”
+
“less damage from undead”, etc.

Perhaps you’re right.

Because that,
“reduced one’s damage” = debuff to others
“less damage from X" = self defensive parameters

They’re supposed to work separately.

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The order of the defensive calculations I know (from the explanations written by others in past) is :
1-1. % “reduced damage” to enemy
1-2. calculation of Fumble
1-3. calculation of dodge/avoid
1-4. calculation of hit or miss (by OA/DA)
2. shield block
3. % “less damage from X”
4. armor
5. resist
6. flat “less damage from X”
7. % “damage absorb”
8. flat “damage absorb”