[Feedback] The Great Ranged Balance Discussion

I made a thread trying to figure out what support class would be the best Best support class for Korvan Wyrm Primal Strike
Since there were few replies I moved on to other builds but havenā€™t forgotten about it because I love the yellow lightnings and have sweet illusion prepared. Itā€™s not certain if this will survive Crucible with my poor skills, maybe more life leech / Inquisitor Seal will be needed. But it has lots of life / Phys Res so maybe it wonā€™t be too bad / need too many changes. By the way, the helm and shoulders used have ā€˜Korvanā€™ in their names which must be a wink from :zantai: to use it with Korvan Wyrm.

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I think that it will certainly do SR 65-66. I have piercing PS that can do SR 65-66. Both ranged and melee. Yours looks similar. Better in some things worse in others.

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Ranged savagery that finally feels good to me, still in testing (I hate current devo tree and not completing spear) but very consistent SR75-76 with 7-8 minute timer left including a +aether res -attack speed run: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2mmoa52

Single target is not great, but enough WPS and fully converted rattosh + aether corruption putting in work on trash to clear trash. ADCTH coming out of its ears so survivability is fine.

So, passthrough combined with huge ADCTH procs and a conduit to make it feel solid with decent overall damage. Will try some crucible runs but it feels like 6:00ish minutes to me with the meh single target and slow Alek kills.

edit: still feels horrible to be bum rushed though, as the arc issue means constantly retreating to try to funnel mobs into passthrough shot

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Or do you? https://www.grimtools.com/calc/gZwwdJKZ

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:rofl:

You didnā€™t even take Blood of Dreeg! But yes Pyro is possible.

Btw Iā€™ve just made without much though process pure ranged Purifier without single point in Grenado/Bombs, maybe will post it.

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I like it for pets due to that +3 to skills :yum:

Mirari - SilverCore Pets :3

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Birbs can attack from RANGE, right? :ice_cream:

In all seriousness, though, has anyone tried the new Rutnickā€™s Blaster with Fire Strike Sorcerer? Seems like it should be pretty straightforward to gear for some nice fire and chaos to aether conversion. Time dilation seems like a fun pickup as well with the extended Mirror duration and maybe ghoul as well.

EDIT: Thanks @eardianm!

For others looking:

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There is one posted higher up in this thread actually, was doing mid 5s crucible iirc

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WEAPON DAMAGE 4403-6517

so technically correct but yeesh :scorv:

I make these suggestions to Oathbearer unaware of the possibility that thereā€™s some broken Oathbearer build, but iā€™ll make these suggestions anyway.

My main issues with the gun so far is how slow it is and gives too few skill bonuses. With the setup i made i reached like 175% attack speed, which is obviously too low for AA builds, and the build is starved for skills points due to the gun having no +1 to any mastery.

I would suggest bumping the base speed and increase the % speed to like 18% at max roll and replace the +2 to Aura of Conviction with +1 to Inquisitor skills.

Nothing thatā€™s come forward yet. It did get a small flat bump but agreed especially on the attack speed front, itā€™s very hard to get near cap

I agree with everything mentioned on this post, I love guns, I love being inquisitor, dagallon died because he had no phys res, hagarradian enforcer needs support with AA or ABB. Also if anyone wants to try hellborne to be able to do sr 75-76 try my build, lack of fire retal had to make me do some gdstashing https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lNkmoyBV

Edit: forgot to thanks for ALL who helped me on GD Discord, Fang specially.

Hi nery I was wondering if you have grimtools for the build. I was thinking about making build with elgoth gun and bloodrager helmet. Gun got small buff with weapon damage and with the extra damage on savagery with helm perhaps one can make a good build from decent?

this is what I planned to build https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lV7mGbdN crafting helmet with slow

When I tried elgoloth before this recent buff, AoE was the bigger concern than single target damage. It actually held decently well if you got to boss rooms but getting there was awful. Which is a long way of saying I donā€™t know if bloodrager helmet is actually ideal, and Iā€™m going to try building with horns of korvaak next time

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What if mixing in some maelstrom?

At the risk of sounding like an overnerf complainer, I have a hard time telling a difference between few points and hard capped maelstrom at this point. On itā€™s own fully invested (minus first node) devils werenā€™t enough to clear trash in SR75. Actually putting hand of ultos proc on savagery had a bigger impact

@Ulvar1 quick doodle that will need a bunch of testing and gear/skill points optimization still https://www.grimtools.com/calc/b28mjOzV

should have better aoe than my earlier attempt with korvaak helm+devo. Lots of flexibility on gear choices and WPS testing needed (like donā€™t leave upheaval at 4 points)

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Nice, I can see if I can do something with it

@eardianm I just made SR 80 with build similar as the one I posted but with suboptimal kaisan amulet.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lNkm8rqV
Trash mobs and random swarming heros was more dangerous than nemesis

Thatā€™\s the GT: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4Vxkm0b2

Itā€™s decent build but not top tier.

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thanks very similar.
I do not expect ranged single target skill be top tier and I do not mind, I just wanna see if contribution can be made to make ranged better. decent good for me because i am decent player haha

Got this built and tested as listed above to start. This is miles better than previous version, SR75-76 felt good other than aetherbutt snake briefly ruining my day. Damage is very peaky considering ring procs and DA bonuses but can definitely nuke when it lines up. AS was around 185 so potential to go different rings with attack speed if youā€™re looking for consistency instead.

Definitely going to continuing tweaking this. May be reasonable ranged savagery finally (although not expecting sub 5 results or anything super great in crucible)

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