[Forgotten Gods] What we know about the Oathkeeper skills

[Sotnik]

Also confirmed by Zantai that EoR with either S&B or 2H is awesome.
for further advice…

Is it known if EoR adds off-hand damage while DW?
Is attack speed or cast speed applied to EoR?

[ChthonicSonic]

Is it known if EoR adds off-hand damage while DW?

According to the description it would:

4. Eye of Reckoning

Next Level : 1
26.3 Energy Cost per Second
3 Meter Target Area
10% Main Hand Damage
10% Off-Hand Damage
66-99 Physical Damage
72 Fire Damage

Is attack speed or cast speed applied to EoR?

Since it’s actually a channeled spell, my best guess would be that it’s cast speed.

[Sotnik]

According to the description it would:

Hopefully. As far as I remember, it was tested with a shield.

[Callius]

Thanks for the reply!

Yeah, why not?

As i said i’m no expert, but i had the impression that for a shield build you need max recovery time (whereas oathkeeper got no skill to buff it) and overguard for overall shield buff. Oathkeeper seem to have some shield sinergy but nothing spectacular when it come to shield block (recovery time, dmg blocked and such) or am i missing something?

[ChthonicSonic]

No worries, my wording perhaps sounded harsher than intended.

Optimized shield buffs are always better (obviously :D), but are in no way a requirement or necessity to run a EoR build.
Run with what you have.

But the Oathkeeper does have a formidable shield synergy:

26. Haven (Modifier to 25. Presence of Virtue (Toggled Ability) )

Next Level : 1
+35 Energy Reserved
+75 Health
Healing Effects Increased by 3%
+2% Shield Block Chance
+5% Shield Damage Blocked

Next Level : 12
+114 Energy Reserved
+820 Health
Healing Effects Increased by 15%
+11% Shield Block Chance
+32% Shield Damage Blocked

[Callius]

No worries and thanks for the reply guess I just didn’t express myself correctly.
Just thought that some soldier shield skill were so good that you might actually shouldn’t even try to go for a shield build if you don’t have those, if you know what i mean.

Guess i’ll just wait and experiment a bit

[AdamNavel]

Can’t wait to try new class with all other existing classes :D:D:D

[Dengaleged]

Does anyone know whether EoR will add shield off-hand damage or just weapon damage?

[Belzzzz]

The Pet + Aura of Censure seems like a great combo.

A CDR Ascension build could also be very interesting.

[Talonblade]

I can see a DEE build coming out from the Sentinel with the awesome vitality and acid support that the Oathkeeper has. Maybe even a new DW Acid build with the Devish with a focus on transmuted Righteous Fervor. There is just so much that could be done with the Oathkeeper after looking over everything in grimtools. I can’t wait until we get the items in so we can start theorycrafting with the new bonuses.

[Xenos]

1.No RR (except phys / fire).
2.No support cold / lightning / chaos / aether / piercing / bleeding.
3. Idiot double converting (Fervor + Scion of Dreeg)
4. Huge mana requirements for skills.
5. The path of the three - the converting of phys and fire into acid. Why not in vitality or another type of damage?
6. bleeding on tectonic shift. What for?
7. burn / trauma. How to deal with damage types that don’t have dots and who will lose damage from them?
8. Aether Opressor or cold/piercing Dervish = Defiler’s younger brothers?

Yes, until we see new items and the rebalance of old items, all claims are theoretical.
But I did not really like the new mastery at first glance.

Give us more full converts from any to any type of damage. Give us more items with any/ full convert - not to skills. (like gladiator belt or beronath reforged)

anyway, thanks for the work, Crate

[Norzan]

1.No RR (except phys / fire).

Guardian’s transmuter converts the RR to vitality and acid.

[x1x1x1x2]

1.No RR (except phys / fire).

What Norzan said. At least it’s not Arcanist tier RR.

2.No support cold / lightning / chaos / aether / piercing / bleeding.

yeah I really wanted another bleeder. Chaos also needs one more guy. Instead of acid/vit the class could have been acid/chaos.

3. Idiot double converting (Fervor + Scion of Dreeg)
   Where’s the idiocy? The fervor transmuter conversion only applies to fervor and scion only applies to the pet. Even the RR is converted here.

4. Huge mana requirements for skills.

No comment on this. I only really comment on mana after testing.

5. The path of the three - the converting of phys and fire into acid. Why not in vitality or another type of damage?

I would argue vitality already has enough support. I don’t even approve of the whole vit thing on oathkeeper. Better chaos.

6. bleeding on tectonic shift. What for?

agreed. This is almost phys rr CT tier

7. burn / trauma. How to deal with damage types that don’t have dots and who will lose damage from them?

what’s wrong with burn and trauma? Aether is already very powerful without dots. Chaos has other issues.

8. Aether Opressor or cold/piercing Dervish = Defiler’s younger brothers?

Oppressor is for physical or vit (nor both at the same time). Dervish is acid. Oathkeeper has good synergy with both Necro and NB. Certainly not defiler tier.

Yes, until we see new items and the rebalance of old items, all claims are theoretical.
But I did not really like the new mastery at first glance.

Give us more full converts from any to any type of damage. Give us more items with any/ full convert - not to skills. (like gladiator belt or beronath reforged)

anyway, thanks for the work, Crate

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[medea_fleecestealer]

1.No RR (except phys / fire).
2.No support cold / lightning / chaos / aether / piercing / bleeding.
3. Idiot double converting (Fervor + Scion of Dreeg)
4. Huge mana requirements for skills.
5. The path of the three - the converting of phys and fire into acid. Why not in vitality or another type of damage?
6. bleeding on tectonic shift. What for?
7. burn / trauma. How to deal with damage types that don’t have dots and who will lose damage from them?
8. Aether Opressor or cold/piercing Dervish = Defiler’s younger brothers?

Yes, until we see new items and the rebalance of old items, all claims are theoretical.
But I did not really like the new mastery at first glance.

Give us more full converts from any to any type of damage. Give us more items with any/ full convert - not to skills. (like gladiator belt or beronath reforged)

anyway, thanks for the work, Crate

5. Because … 14th September stream:

"gilavar: acid seems off the theme with OK

Depends on how you look at it I guess. I suggest you read our preview of the Oathkeeper mastery because that is actually exactly what we were going for when we came up with this mastery. We kinda thought like acid could use more skill options, but a shield mastery is kind of a logical next step. So how do we combine those two things. And then of course there’s the Paladin theme we really like, and then it hit us. Paladins in the traditional sense are holy warriors, but Paladins as seen in the past kind of depends on which god you’re worshipping so that’s how we came up with the Oathkeeper design. Like Oathkeepers are bound to the gods, but it really depends on which god you’re worshipping. If you worship Empyrion then you might be a righteous holy warrior sending fire down upon your enemies. But if you bind yourself to the Witch Gods that’s a different story and that’s how we get all this acid theme where you bind yourself to Dreeg, the Great Guardian."

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77182

[ya1]

4000+ armor for any warlord yo. 5200 here with no angrim, components and augments. 6000-7000 if you try harder.

Turtle up people! SR is coming!

[Superfluff]

I’m getting the feeling that it’s one of those times where the player is not satisfied no matter what. It usually starts like this. I do hope i’m wrong so i’ll throw in some green

1.No RR (except phys / fire). Also acid and Vit. That’s 4 elements. Not including the many new mods that are plenty and you haven’t seen yet
2.No support cold / lightning / chaos / aether / piercing / bleeding. Are you sure? Have you seen all the new items? Not that it has to support every single element in the game, but it just to happens that it does. The mastery has 4x rr and the rest is blanced via mods. That is one of the hardest things about adding a new mastery to so many and I assure you it’s very well done
3. Idiot double converting (Fervor + Scion of Dreeg) Aside from implying devs made an idiot move, all the old and new testers would be idiots for not realizing the skill is bad so late before the game is launched. The divided conversion is made to support all the implied dmg types equally, no favorites. The high dmg threshold is achieved via mods, often available quite early in the game. But really that’s end game stuff and it’s balanced really well for every damage type. I’m sure there will be a couple more tweaks here and there since not all the many builds cannot be tested by a handful of people, but the foundation is well set.
4. Huge mana requirements for skills. It is in tune with other existing skills and is more than manageable while leveling untweaked and end game.
5. The path of the three - the converting of phys and fire into acid. Why not in vitality or another type of damage? Why? This is totally arbitrary on your side. Are there many other sources of pys>acid in the game? Vitality has Harbinger already. Why not have lets say a fire skill like meteor do acid damage, and have even more acid by converting chunks of the physical side of the spell. Just an example.
6. bleeding on tectonic shift. What for? You complained above that it does not support bleed. You can assume that since it’s there, you have the items to support bleed on OK. And not just on Vire.
7. burn / trauma. How to deal with damage types that don’t have dots and who will lose damage from them? I don’t understand this question. Aether/Chaos/piercing not having dots is not FG specific and the dmg types seem to be doing fine and will keep doing so.
8. Aether Opressor or cold/piercing Dervish = Defiler’s younger brothers? Is it a complaint or a lore question. If it’s a complaint I can assure you that Opressor is very Opressive be it Aether or Vitality and Dervish is very strong be it Acid or Cold. I have not tried Pierce yet but feel free to theorycraft one once Items are available.

Yes, until we see new items and the rebalance of old items, all claims are theoretical. Indeed:)

But I did not really like the new mastery at first glance. You seem to be in the minority as many believe it’s overpowered. At least you have a very high chance to be very pleasantly surprised since you don’t expect much.

Give us more full converts from any to any type of damage. Give us more items with any/ full convert - not to skills. (like gladiator belt or beronath reforged) Is your heart into these complaints or is this a preemptive strike to make sure crate gives lots of options? You have not seen the items, and they are many and sweet:cool:

anyway, thanks for the work, Crate

4000+ armor for any warlord yo. 5200 here with no angrim, components and augments. 6000-7000 if you try harder.

Turtle up people! SR is coming!

You are gonna want the RR. You still need decent lifesteal to survive.

[Superfluff]

4000+ armor for any warlord yo. 5200 here with no angrim, components and augments. 6000-7000 if you try harder.

Turtle up people! SR is coming!

You are gonna want the RR. You still need decent lifesteal to survive.

[They_Live]

Is Eye of reckoning scaling on cast speed? Had this feeling since i noticed the low %weapon dmg. looks like a spell to me.

[medea_fleecestealer]

Is Eye of reckoning scaling on cast speed? Had this feeling since i noticed the low %weapon dmg. looks like a spell to me.

1st February stream:
Zantai on EoR scaling: EoR scales with AS, its movement scales with run speed.

[Aldebaran]

I’m getting the feeling that it’s one of those times where the player is not satisfied no matter what. It usually starts like this.

Yeah, the sooner the release date is upon us, the more people start nitpicking, for some reason. Not even waiting to actually play the mastery :rolleyes: