Forthcoming Forgotten Gods expac - what we know so far Part II

[ChthonicSonic]

Great work, Medea!

Every dev stream answers few questions and raises many more.
Very interested in The Shattered Realm and would like to know:

1. Will there even be secret areas or quests within The Shattered Realm?
2. We haven’t seen any FG maps in The Shattered Realm sofar. Are they not created yet or are they deliberately withheld from our view?
   [li]Some map suggestions of my own:[/li][LIST=A]
3. A Barrowholm-like town surrounded by the bloody waters of the likes of Edge of Reality/Sanity
4. Totally distorted reality: a map where a certain bridge between Tyrant’s Hold and Twin Falls is now repaired or repairable!

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[medea_fleecestealer]

1. I believe Zantai said in a stream there is going to be a quest associated with the Shattered Realm. As for secret areas I doubt it, that’s not what the Shattered Realm is about.

2. Maps are handcrafted, what the devs will have, if any, from FG only they know.

3B. Not sure that would be possible since the original map for that area was redesigned many years ago now and broke the ability to connect them iirc.

[ChthonicSonic]

1. I believe Zantai said in a stream there is going to be a quest associated with the Shattered Realm. As for secret areas I doubt it, that’s not what the Shattered Realm is about.

Nice!

2. Maps are handcrafted, what the devs will have, if any, from FG only they know.

You’re right, we’ll see…

3B. Not sure that would be possible since the original map for that area was redesigned many years ago now and broke the ability to connect them iirc.

I know what you’re saying, but for a distorted reality it only has to look real/familiar.
Else I guess places like the Edge of Reality/Sanity would be impossible (slap some familiar and old areas together for something spectacularly new).
After all the fuss about it, it would be a cool nudge to the players!

[Jaknet]

After all the fuss about it, it would be a cool nudge to the players!

I believe you’ll find the main reason this bridge was/isn’t repairable is because the plan for the world changed and Tyrant’s Hold became a challenge area and thus having an easy farming route (Twin Falls rift > bridge to Tyrant’s Hold) isn’t going to be happening.

[ChthonicSonic]

I believe you’ll find the main reason this bridge was/isn’t repairable is because the plan for the world changed and Tyrant’s Hold became a challenge area and thus having an easy farming route (Twin Falls rift > bridge to Tyrant’s Hold) isn’t going to be happening.

I understand why Crate cut off the possibility to have a shortcut to a challenge area or an easy farming route.
That’s why I think it would be extra tantalizing to have the bridge repaired/repairable in the Shattered Realm (where there are no in-campaign consequences/benefits).
Looks like something the devs would like to haunt the players with…

[medea_fleecestealer]

Indeed.

Grim Misadventure #64: A Window into the Faction World

No, the layout of the world had changed as we worked on Act 3 and that bridge is no longer an option.

And your own quote.

Twin Falls Bridge

The bridge was originally planned to be rebuilt, but before it ever reached that stage GD had grown to the point where the bridge would have given a quick exploit to reach the dungeon on the other side, so it remains an unrepaired and unrepairable bridge.

Cronely wan never intended to be optional, the problem was as there was more than one direction to go some people would forget about the other direction and then never find Cronley, hence the change of the map areas to prevent people being able to miss one of the story line dungeons.

[Garfunkel]

Guys was there any new info /spoilers on the last dev stream (2 Nov)? Missed it

[Anathema2741]

Nothing important was revealed, although we did see some new Shattered Realm levels that weren’t available before, revealing some new Forgotten Gods architecture.

[medea_fleecestealer]

Latest stream info (2nd November) added to the front page. I’ll put it here as well.

Stream of the 2nd November didn’t really reveal much, a few small spoilers in the chat text was about it. Though quite a few of us were very interested in an idea that came up during the chat. More on that at the end.

CepheidSauron : Is there a possibility for more lore on nemesis and perhaps loading screens featuring in game nemesis?
Chjees : With the lore it would be lovely if we got to know more of the possession process.

Greek_Feta_Cheese : have you guys ever toyed with the idea of a constellation that buffs or repurposes potions? @CrateEntertainment @Zantai_GD @MedeaFleecestealer
Zantai_GD : no, we have not toyed with that idea
MedeaFleecestealer : Greek_Feta_Cheese why the heck are you asking me? I’m not a Crate employee.

wylhelmien : why only one new class on the Xpac?
Zantai_GD : because each new class is exponentially more complicated than the last. it’s not just 1 new class, it’s really 8

snowmanplayer123 : also wouldn’t it be cool if Tenebris’s Scythe would have a higher chance to drop from Tenebris himself?
Zantai_GD : it would be cool and that’s how it has always worked

Greek_Feta_Cheese : @Zantai_GD can the damage of the movement skill abilities be converted ?
Zantai_GD : yes

kyleblake48 : @CrateEntertainment does throwing your shield impact your ability to block?
Zantai_GD : no, throwing the magical shield does not gimp you

vestrik : @CrateEntertainment @Zantai_GD when you will add ponies in game?
Zantai_GD : we are a strict anti-pony studio

ChthonicSonic : I understand the no-pony-policy, but where are the frickin dromedary?
Zantai_GD : where indeed

ChthonicSonic : @Zantai_GD What’s the max range on the movement skills?
Zantai_GD : varies
Psyklone55 : varies between skills, or varies because they’re random-ish?
Zantai_GD : varies between skills

Chjees : Do you get reputation in this game mode?
Zantai_GD : no

Mullbub : is the whirlwind skill pure physical dmg?
adoomgod : @Mullbub pretty sure I can answer that since it was show-cased in a previous stream but no, not pure physical.

punkyzz_57 : Q : This mode is gonna be like the crucible or in the main campagn ?
Zantai_GD : it’s accessed through the main campaign

Goatkunslab :While using Whirlwind, are you still able to block attacks?
adoomgod : yes you can block while whirlwind
Zantai_GD : yes, you can block while doing Eye of Reckoning

KastaTD : @CrateEntertainment is it possible to cast instant skills (like War Cry or Blood of Dreeg) during Whirlwind?
Zantai_GD : you can’t cast other skills while channeling

EXTREMEGAMER29 : When do you expect to give us a release date roughly?
Zantai_GD : we’ll give you a release date when we decide it’s ready to release

ChthonicSonic : @Zantai_GD Which of the new celestial skills (Azrakaa, Korvaak, Yugol) can be bound to (pseudo) pets?
Zantai_GD : azrakaa and korvaak

punkyzz_57 : How much Shard you got on this mode ?
Zantai_GD : as many as you can handle

Sinnfullduck : What do the shattered souls do for you?
Zantai_GD : fill the progress bar and empower you briefly

Mullbub : @Zantai_GD can you use these levels to lvl up your character? or why should you enter the realm?
Zantai_GD : you gain XP after beating a boss and when you cash out, just like crucible

creatorofworlds : @Zantai_GD Any enhancements to the modding tools we may see when FG releases?
Zantai_GD : what enhancements are you looking for
DenisMashutikov : Zantai, you still not answer about modding tool
Zantai_GD : I asked, what enhancements are you looking for with modding tools
DenisMashutikov : Zantai, i ask: simple copy assets for .msh for example
creatorofworlds : @Zantai_GD For the GD editor having the ability to break the asset and search panel out and have them on a second monitor while having a full screen world view on the first monitor would be fantastic!
Zantai_GD : the mod tools are the same tools we used to work

EXTREMEGAMER29 : Will we get a discount on FG if we have Malmouth @CrateEntertainment
Zantai_GD : why would there be a discount on a new expansion
EXTREMEGAMER29 : Some companies do that, so just wondering @Zantai_GD
Zantai_GD : I’m not sure which companies these are
snowmanplayer123 : talking about discounts , will FG be on a discount when it releases?
Zantai_GD : how about we double the price but discount it 50%
EXTREMEGAMER29 :Will there be a pre-order bonus?
Zantai_GD : we are not planning a pre-order bonus

DarkMilitant :do you already have any plans for when the release of the town builder, so your new project, shall be? I am already curious
Zantai_GD : yes, we have plans

EXTREMEGAMER29 : @Zantai_GD @CrateEntertainment Where did the inspiration come from to do the shattering?
Zantai_GD : players wanted some form of endgame dungeon so…here it is

EXTREMEGAMER29 : @Zantai_GD After release will you be updating The Shattering from time to time with new floors?
Zantai_G : possibly

EXTREMEGAMER29 : @Zantai_GD Does the shattering scale with your level?
Zantai_GD : of course

And the stream finished off with some more new music from Skewsound. So that was the stream this time around. But that idea I mentioned? Blizzcon being on at the same time as the dev stream sparked this.

najvus : Cratecon
FlamingX21 : Boston?
snowmanplayer123 : Cratecon next year
MedeaFleecestealer : YES
Sinnfullduck : I’d be at CrateCon
Mullbub : why does it have to be in US?
SlackerKing : Cratecon with Tri-Beer
kodos44 : I’ve been to Pax East so…YES!!!
najvus : i would travel around the world for Cratecon ofc!
snowmanplayer123 : I’d have to fly a continent to get there but i’d definitely come
MarxoneX : you have to promise something to people and they will come - for example Free Hat
Sinnfullduck : CrateCon in Vegas
Arnge : A big BBQ in Zantai’s back yard
snowmanplayer123 : rent a club for the night and call it CrateCon
ChthonicSonic : CrateCon is a secret level in the SR
TwstedTV : CrateCon - NYC 2019
MedeaFleecestealer : Tri-beers all round.
Crank9000 : Tri-grape juices for under aged
wylhelmien : will be hard to set a Cratecon since you guys release info and game when they ready to get out and not on set date with deadline! your compagnie would have to review their philosophie
najvus : i live about 8-9 hours by flight from the east coast ! still will be able to get to CrateCon
TwstedTV : 8 hours ? Boston is like 3 hours on AmTrak No way its 8 hours…LOL
Zantai_GD : lol yeah good luck getting medierra to travel somewhere else
anathema2741 : you can talk about grim dawn all day… and maybe a new project? wink wink at the hypothetical cratecon i mean
kyleblake48 : did you see the awesome cosplay of Uroboruuk set on the forums? we’d have more of that at CrateCON!

Just an idea so far, but let’s hope Crate decides to run with it some time in the not too distant future.

[ChthonicSonic]

Nothing important was revealed

Except for this epic moment:

[Evil_Baka]

Except for this epic moment:

Don’t forget Grava dying to Packla several times near the end. :rolleyes:

[medea_fleecestealer]

Yeah, but that isn’t really a spoiler Evil_Baka.

[Norzan]

I swear Grava uses only white items.

[ChthonicSonic]

Do these symbols have actual meaning or are they just nice aesthetics?

[medea_fleecestealer]

Don’t really understand what you’re asking. It’s possible they do, but we have no info so far. Might be something we find out about more in the FG content.

[Silben]

I’m not 100% sure what Shard/Chunk refers to in those screenshots…but Chunk is the wrong choice of word. Perhaps Splinter? It goes much better with Shard.

[medea_fleecestealer]

The Shattered Realm has literally shattered into Shards. Each Shard has 4 Chunks, 3 “normal” and the 4th a boss level. So you start at Shard 1 Chunk 1 and progress, if you’re lucky, to Shard 1 Chunk 4 to fight a boss. If you survive the ordeal then you have a choice of collecting your loot (cashing out) or going deeper. If you decide to go deeper then you move on to Shard 2, Chunk 1. And so it goes - endlessly. As Zantai said a while ago some of the playtesters have reached Shard 75 durng testing.

[Silben]

The Shattered Realm has literally shattered into Shards. Each Shard has 4 Chunks, 3 “normal” and the 4th a boss level. So you start at Shard 1 Chunk 1 and progress, if you’re lucky, to Shard 1 Chunk 4 to fight a boss. If you survive the ordeal then you have a choice of collecting your loot (cashing out) or going deeper. If you decide to go deeper then you move on to Shard 2, Chunk 1. And so it goes - endlessly. As Zantai said a while ago some of the playtesters have reached Shard 75 durng testing.

Thanks! Chunks is still a poor choice of name for them though imo.

[ChthonicSonic]

Don’t really understand what you’re asking. It’s possible they do, but we have no info so far. Might be something we find out about more in the FG content.

I too think we will learn when FG is released, but it just caught my eyes and I was speculating about it.
The screenshots are not of a specific chunk or shard, the symbols can be seen throughout the content of FG (at least of what we’ve seen so far).
I was just wondering if there was any meaning behind it…

[Garfunkel]

Thanks! Chunks is still a poor choice of name for them though imo.

Agree. Chunks intuitively feel bigger in size than shards. Not a good choice for the word imo