That graveyard seems pretty small if it’s meant to be for the builds Zantai has killed over the years. 
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Actually, I know only one really killed build. All other is rebalance, or fix overperformance, or unintentional changes.
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Everything seems to be MOAR. MOAR Critical damage. MOAR Attack Speed. Unbelievable. Is it time to play with Superbosses as Nemesis die within seconds? 
Thanks for keeping my build strong Devs!!! Thank you very very much. It is a pleasure
Build: Spellbinder, Level 100 (GD 1.1.9.2) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator
Played a bit (you can check it on Twitch). This Patch is really good. Additional to this… The Game feels a little bit faster!
Is there any chance we will be able to change the character select background at some point? My favorits one is from the vanilla game and I’d love to see that one again. Titan Quest implemented this feature a while ago and it’s great.
Thanks very much for such a massive patch and amazing work as always.
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Technically something like this is still viable, though at max it only 1s cd now
There is a guide somewhere on the forums for that, here it is. Scroll down till you see the files posted by Gerda, it’s really simple to do.
Thanks for the patch, a lot of good changes came out of it. But there were some strange ones as well.
Health regen nerf was sure weird but at least it was included in patch notes and Z made some explaining on the topic. But for me personally there was some more weird stuff, like this:
I’ve made several feedback topics on lightning melee, and a lot of stuff was fixed with Wind Devil buffs and some item buffs. But i also made a topic on Upheaval: how it is absolutely broken with pass through because it doesnt have internal cd and how it is useless in everything else.
So this Savagery mod on Ultos set, i assume, was added to help melee make use of the skill. Of course, with so many more chances to trigger Upheaval on a single hit (and trigger it multiple times) it went from useless to broken.
Its kinda bittersweet. On one hand i appreciate the desire to buff melee. On the other this kind of a change, sneaked in at the last moment, untested, not only locks the skill viability behind very certain gear. It turns smth from obviously useless into obviously broken which is bound to be nerfed.
I reiterate on the suggestion to introduce internal cd to Upheaval to avoid multiple trigger abuse.
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i dont think Upheaval is the only “problem” here. The atk arc and maximum target mod with this set is ridiculous OP. Look at the video you had, even without the Upheaval animation proc, monsters died way too fast with just normal Savagery spam (basically 3-4x faster than normal- and for that, 3-4x more times life leech, so you cant die). Most of others AA builds, they needed to rely on WPS or other auto-sources of damage (like multiples BS or Guardians to not interupt AA) for more AoE. But now you dont need to. If this is the way of buffing lightning melee only, which only “lightning AA” can get multiple targets with mods (like Stormheart/ Crystallium/ Ultos), then i’m against it. And give Upheaval any internal CD will just make other builds (that not Ultos) using this skill even worse, cuz maybe Upheaval is the way (sometimes the only way) of getting more AOE for them.
You only need 0.2 sec internal cd to prevent multiple procs. It wont affect the builds that use Upheaval “normally” in any way.
The Savagery arc is a very big buff but without Upheaval in doesn’t make the build OP, no. Full Ultos set blocks the WPS amulet for Archon. But in general i’m also against the addition of the arc to AA on specific gear. It restricts the way you should play with certain skill if you want a strong build.
They both contribute for the op-part of the build. If you delete the arc and multiple targets and keep the Upheaval, then your build wont be OP either. Without the arc mod to Sava, even a build combine with weapon specially support for lightning Sava like Stormreaver AND a dedicated set that buff a lot to Upheaval like Veilkeeper, we just have a “good” build, not OP. Did i miss some other builds that trigger multiple Upheaval to the point that it can clear Cru for less than 4 mins or kill things fast in SR 90? I only saw passthrough VoS build thay abuse it, and even then they are good, not that kind of OP. Even then the biggest part is passthrough- not Upheaval. Cuz passthrough Primal Strike build can be the same, or even better. Why other AA builds can only get some %dam, small flat, a few skill bonus, and on the other hand lightning AA (and the “new” Cadence, which i tried pierce/cold/physic/aether/chaos versions- they are all very good with new patch) can get more and more multiple targets??
The OP-ness on the build comes from very high chance of (multiple) Upheaval procs on a single hit. If you try the same full Ultos with the arc and regular WPS it won’t be as fast. Take it from someone who tested this platform way too many times.
I’m not sure it’s a good place to discuss the details of some build.
VERY NICE> Thank you guys!
No way to add an option to natively customize font?
Wohooo awesome
There’s something wrong with this set (but not the mythical one).
Not only this bonus is not in-game but also GrimTools parsed it in a weird way: Judicator’s Signets
The mythical version is fine both in-game and in Grim Tools.
From my counting the patch brings 675 buffs and 139 nerfs, about 83% of changes are buffs.
There are more nerfs than buffs in the patch only if less than 21% of buffs are meaningful.
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What’s so good about Archons? Oathkeeper offers almost nothing for 2-handed builds.
Thank you for the hard work as always, nice to see the game still getting updates
Wish you guys a nice Halloween, take care!
WPS, movement skill, rr%. The only other choice here is Warder but it doesn’t have second rr source which is vital for lightning melee and it has the worst mov skill with knockdown.
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Lots of changes, lots of great ones, but I gotta say some of them look kinda random. Like buffing Pyran, Mageslayer, LD and CHILLWHISPER (lol) but nerfing Darkblaze and Venomblade? I know some of these items like Chillwhisper were changed to make up for something else but still…
Also, I gotta second Banana here, Upheaval on Evoker of Elgoloth was the most broken thing during the playtest, and it was well known. And now sneaking in an untested Ultos change that basically boils down to the same exploit?
Anyway, sorry to bitch, great patch, keep up the good work.
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