[Grim Tools] Builds

[Dammitt]

So, at some point GT build parser started to parse only those forum threads that have videos (from youtube). That’s the main reason why a build guide doesn’t show up.
I wanted to make some kind of fix for this, fetching guides from forum if they are “detailed”. Basically if the first post of the thread contains a lot of text, something along these lines. Because posting GT link + couple sentences of couple pictures and no videos doesn’t make it a guide in my opinion.

[Allan_Ashcroft]

Because posting GT link + couple sentences of couple pictures and no videos doesn’t make it a guide in my opinion.

I agree with that, but for the most part the videos dont rly do anything (for me personaly) i hope you implement a fix for that, i like reading the thougths and detailed guides but basicly never watched the SR runs or things like that

To elaborate on that: I usually just look at the Titel of the build seeing what it can achive and then look at the Build so for me, for a long time the Forum link is a rarely clicked link. most if not all of the relevant information edgecases withold are in the GT link and there is quite frankly no value in videos that offer no Narration of any kind.

[Maya]

@Dammitt

Because posting GT link + couple sentences of couple pictures and no videos doesn’t make it a guide in my opinion.

I am confused, is GT builds supposed to be for build posts or only for guides?

I ask mostly because of this -

Become the new Build Compendium curator

Thank you - then it is poll time. Let’s see how others think about it. poll You can select up to three answers. Regardless of the outcome, if anybody steps up as the new curator, we will support their decision (provided there are no other objections). However should the outcome favor GT Builds, then you might want to spend your time differently.

[Dammitt]

Build Guides.

[Maya]

@Dammitt

Build Guides.

ah, ok

[Allan_Ashcroft]

I will make a video then, since your project is basicly the corner stone of my Grim Dawn enjoyment, i’ll just add one.

Does the crawler notice that? - It does after a bump

[HmaKvla]

in case that vote will result in GT Builds replacing the compendium i hope you reconsider ; )
never watched a video and i don’t use it as “guide”

i have an idea what build i want to play, which skill(s), dmg type and which key items, and then i’m lazy and look what’s around, i will take the worse build if it fits my “idea” better.

so i just look for a build because i know stuff i want included in my build, i’m just to lazy to do it from scratch, i prefer to play the game instead of spending time in 3rd party tools or staring at devotions.
and some of those forum threads didn’t have videos.

good thing i’m not a build creator, because if i was and GT Builds would replace the compendium completely i would also be forced into the YT eco system.

and adding more options to the root of grimtools.com, not sure since there are already so many. but if it would replace the compendium what would you think about changing the current “Builds” section to “Build Guides” and adding a “Build Collection” that is the same but without the video requirement?

disclaimer: this is just my opinion reader beware

[ergates]

Currently I cannot reach the builds part of the site at all. Traceroute is not showing any error with reaching grimtools.com.

[ergates]

Now I can reach the build tool (after completing a challenge from cloudfare, which has not been required before), but some data seems to be lost. For example there used to be a (gearless) build for this link: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lV7zP762

EDIT: That could be a caching/browser issue. From my work environment the skills get loaded.

[medea_fleecestealer]

Taken from a post in the GD discord.

[Oni_das_Alagoas]

@Dammitt

The condition for a build guide to appear in the list is pretty simple - the source (be it the first post of a forum thread or the description of a youtube video) has to have a link to a build planner. Please note that presently non english build guides from youtube are excluded.

Hey, Dammitt. First of all thanks for your work and all that brought to us grim dawn players.

Secondly, I’m having a problem with my new builds not showing up on this feature. I don’t know if this problem is happening for any other creator, but since December of last year my newly uploaded builds are not popping up on Grim Tools Builds.

For example, my latest build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbsJcbvqqsE hasn’t popped up yet on the site and I think I checked all the conditions for it to appear.

[orwund]

@Dammitt

[1.2.1.0] Ultos Warder SR 100, Celestial annihilator, very HC viable

[Grim Dawn Callagadra's Desperation 1.2.1] [Grim Dawn Ultos Warder Ravager kill] [Grim Dawn Ultos Warder SR 100 ending] [Grim Dawn "Don't know strats" Warder Crate kill 1.2.1] [Grim Dawn Ultos Warder SR 80-81 farm] Had same build HC warder, almost same gear, it opened Death’s stone recipe and dead becouse of diving too far. In 1.2.1 build even more potent becouse of wayward soul up, more armor, less physical damage from monsters …

[1.2.1.0] Burning rooster Templar Virtue set SR 90+, Celestials

i know what slow resistance is, my english is bad, i am russian. I mean it doesnt matter for its build, it significant only for autoattack life leech based characters or mb kiting casters

created couple threads, but it seems crawler ignores them, any clues what it comes from?
When i posted them i couldnt add multiple links becouse of being newbee in forum,
but later i provided everything needed.

[Dammitt]

I assume it’s just a lack of description in the thread. Basically it’s just a list of videos and that’s about it - the crawler doesn’t consider this to be a guide in any way.

[gregory_portman]

Hi Dammit, Is it working the same for LE tools? What do I need to do, to showcase build for LE? Just upload any video on yt or it should have some special properties?
GP.

[Dammitt]

The video shouldn’t be short (more than 5-10 minutes iirc), it should have voice over, it should have planner link in description (it must have full equipment and trees for all 5 skills). Other than that there are no requirements. The crawler just checks youtube search results for “last epoch build guide” query, so the video should somehow end up there (e.g. “build guide” should be mentioned in video title, but I have no idea how youtube ranks videos).

[gregory_portman]

Is there other option for build showcase that not require uploading video? I thought there was some kind of build planner etc but I could not find it now.

[Dammitt]

You can just import your character into build planner and share the link, the same way as it’s done in GT.
Theres always an option to write a build guide via https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guide-creator/, but this requires more effort.

[gregory_portman]

I’ll check out this build planner option, TY!
GP.

[mad_lee]

Hi, dammit, pm’ed you but you might have missed it.

My newest build is missing* for some reason from “builds” page in Grimtools:

[1.2.1.2] Ghost of Aether: 4:00 Crucible Gladiator 150-170, Shard 90, Ravager, Callagadra - elite melee performance on a budget - Aether Reaper

[01652-4291283273-_lora_dreamshaper_7_0] *Credit for doing a better AI tweaking job of choosing the image goes to @Ceno Foreword Between being burned out by the top20 project and testing stuff in the test patches, becoming a parent and not having any desire to do write-up that constitutes another guide I haven’t posted anything here since forever. Hell, is there even a point if you can’t even make it part of the Build Compendium anymore. And I cobbled together quite a few potent specs (all of…

[Dammitt]

Sorry for not replying sooner. There was an issue with the crawler, so several recent build guides were not added to the list. It’s fixed now.