Busy busy busy. There’s a lot more work to do now as a junior doctor because of covid - hence the hiatus.
But let’s continue this on PM so we don’t derail this thread.
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It’s good to be back (in the limited capacity that I’m back in)
TL;DR - Love the idea @grey-maybe has, but am absolutely opposed to the practice of using the single best clear time as an objective measure. Simple solution to the issue would to get people to start doing triple reset Cr runs.
If you’re deadset on sticking to the way things are currently done, then in my experience, naked Cr normally takes about 30-40% longer than buffed bannered Cr. The faster the buffed/bannered clear time, the larger the gap grows.
A great example would be my PB blademaster - fastest Cr time by plasmo was ~3:55, fastest naked time by me was ~5:40
To make this reply relevant to the thread, I just want to add several things:
- Why I don’t like the practice of posting single best runs or using that as an objective measure
- The caveat that I could very well be misunderstanding what OP has in mind for this compendium as I’ve always theorycrafted with my own agenda in mind.
- Why I made naked Cr “my thing”
I was a little curious as to why < 5:30 was the lowest bar for normal Cr runs, but I took a quick look around the forum yesterday and was absolutely blown away by the clear speeds posted.
Despite of also being guilty of doing so from time to time, I personally really dislike the habit of posting only the fastest clear time.
I mean it’s fine if you’re doing so to comepete for a speedrun record, but it makes no sense to use it as a metric for a specs peformance. (I mean I wouldn’t trust any research paper which presents only a single data point).
There’s also the additional disadvantages of:
- Unfairly getting specs nerfed.
- Encouraging reckless piloting (after all, you only need to succeed once).
It was already bad enough to have this be common practice when posting a build, but to make a dedicated compendium centered around it?
No offence @grey-maybe (because I DO think that what you’re doing is a fantastic idea), but the skeptic in me wonders if the entries in this compendium are simply going to be a poor man’s version of @ArchHeretic’s Fastest cleaners in the world
Then again, take what I say with a huge pinch of salt.
Of all the veteran Cr-dedicated theorycrafters here, I probably have the lowest standards insofar as build performance goes probably because I favor different things when it comes to theorycrafting.
After all, I’ve always prioritized 2 things over performance:
- The creative and the unorthodox
- Player accessibility - i.e. never understood the point of writing a guide if the people following it can’t pilot the spec successfully in end game challenges
Which is why I made naked Cr my thing.
The rationale is that if I can complete Cr with no buffs/banners in X minutes, then surely most players will be able to do so with the help of tributes.
EDIT:
For the record, I am aware of this.
Apologies if I’m being rude, for I only wish to be direct.
However, to put the onus on theorycrafters/build posters to make the aforementioned change is to ignore the fact that this is your compendium. You get to decide what the submission criteria should be the same way you get to decide the format of the submission form.