I'm Fully Convinced there's no more Expansion!

:fearful: what is there to hug? Thats all bones!!

It’s cold, nearest thing you’re going to get to a snowman until any GD2 appears is my guess. :rofl:

PS: I’m not a spokesperson for Crate. I just seem to pay more attention to what they say than most of you lot do. :stuck_out_tongue:

And what is to stop the celestials (or witch gods, for that matter) from thinking the player is a threat. We’ve grown powerful enough to take down gods … which god will be next? Or will they collectively work to stop us from growing even more powerful?

The best way to survive: take away, invalidate, eliminate, reduce the effectiveness of, or otherwise disallow access to your enemy’s weapon.

well we don’t know if we’re going to play as the taken again or new characters in gd 2. it’ll be interesting to see how crate would decide the lore canon in gd 2.

plot twist: We will play as the bad guys and final boss is Hangman Jarvis

FG was expected to be the last expansion long time ago. As a fan, I will be happy to see new one though. And especially GD 2!

And its finally sealed. The latest Steam sale just puts all remaining doubts away.

Grim Dawn Definitive Edition bundle is now available on Steam or maybe GOG (haven’t checked. Grab your bundle copies now and forget about asking if any MOAR expansion is down the line :sob:

Yay! At last. So many people have been waiting for a definitive edition to come out. :grava_yes:

I want to be happy but this news moved me to tears kowing Crate will soon abandoned this pretty gem to move to other games. Reality of life. Will move to other games too as soon as Crate calls it quits and Hopefully by that time I will have completed my collection of fully decked 100 lvl toons of all class combinations.

i’m baffled at how such a zealous paladin of holiness who gets his wish for paladin class combination in FG, have such a low faith on crate continuing the gd franchise. calm down. i believe crate will keep polishing grim dawn 1 and add new small contents here and there in the future, then establish new town builder game IP to refresh their creativity, while planning to build new engine for gd 2.

it will be a long time of waiting as grim dawn development itself (grim dawn has several years of alpha and beta developments). but look at how gd is right now. how preciously grim it is.

moving to other games while gd franchise is in cooldown state is good idea though. by the time you get back to gd world after a long vacation, it’ll feel refreshing and new imo.

It’s not being abandoned. lol. They, Crate, will still continue to support the game and update it from time to time. It’s just them moving onto other games. Which, as a fan of Crate, we should all be happy about. This way, when they do, if they do, work on a GD 2 or similar type of game, it will be with fresh eyes and not bored to death. Just enjoy the game they have made and let’s check out and support their other works, if it interests you.

Personally, I’m excited to see what they do with a city builder. Love games like that, but find the current state of games lackluster. Cities: Skylines DLC’d to death, as are most things by Paradox. SimCity: Dumbed down to the point of being pointless. These are just my opinions, completely okay if you don’t share them. :slight_smile: So, I welcome them and hope they do same thing to City Builders that they did with ARPG aka: Grim Dawn.

Short version, let’s be happy they can work on other things. That can only help make their games better. Our other option is to have a GD release every year and it gets worse with each iteration of it. Which would you rather have? Fresh minds/ideas or bored to death developers? It shows when devs are not passionate about their work(s). Keep up the good work, Crate!

Im kinda sad for being the last, but I understand why they done with it. Oh well wish GD2 happens sometime in our lifetime lol.
Hope the devs had fun with it and managed to get enough dosh to finance future project.

Oh I think you could say that. :slightly_smiling_face:

I just bought it to scratch my diablo itch! Glad I did. This game is great so far!

I, for one, am very happy with the current state of events. As with every true masterpiece, there comes the time for the creator to say “it’s complete” and put down the brush and chisel . And once it’s done, you leave it alone and let the people admire it for years to come. It’s the desire to get more money out of it what can potentially kill even the best creation. Look at what happened to diablo3! There are so many examples of how you can take a great product and ruin it by constant “improvements”. Sometimes too much of a good thing is also bad. And what I’m trying to say is that Grim Dawn is complete. It’s amazing as is and in my books has no competition really. I’ve played it for thousands of hours already and will continue playing. There’s an entire ocean of builds to try, secrets to uncover and adventures to share with friends. I have come to conclusion that this game is the only one that doesn’t burn me out. Why? Because it’s got the perfect balance of effort to reward. If it’s too easy, - people get bored fast (look at D3). If it’s too hard, people give up before they can complete their builds (self found PoE or D2). Grim Dawn is perfect in that respect. Same goes for itemization. It’s simply untouchable by any other game. There’s plenty of farmable items, rare items, mega super rare items and items you can only get thru GDSTASH lol.
This game will keep inspiring builders! It will keep inspiring themed mode fans! And it will provide enough challenge for masochists, trying ridiculously hard modes like path of perseverance or even naked (no gear) runs.
Balance? I think it was pretty decent until :joy:
@Zantai, if it ain’t broken…
I just hope you guys somehow prevent the power creep if it’s not too late (can’t believe I’m saying this). Can’t even imagine how hard it must be to balance things right now, with so much content added over the years. You need a medal :medal_military:

Anyhow, the Game is truly amazing. It is a complete and finished product imo. It will stand the test of time, have no doubt about it. No further explanations needed imo. Maybe some minor bug fixes here and there.
Kudos to Crate!


Plot twist: Definitive Edition gets pulled out, Zantai anounces one MOAR expansion thanks to the skyrocketing profits that the same bundle pushed in :smiling_imp:

Hmm, just bought the two Loyalist packs on Steam as a thank you for patch 1.1.5, so now there is no more content I can buy to convince Crate to keep pushing out more content.

Oh wait, I can start buying the game and gifting it to my Steam friends. But I have only one Steam friend who doesn’t already own GD (and got it wishlisted), so I guess I’ll have to get him the Definitive Edition :slight_smile:

Sadly, the definitive edition isn’t giftable on Steam.

This is sort of how I see GD’s development coming to a close - courtesy of Blackmore’s Night.

Now at the journey’s end
We’ve travelled far
And all we have to show
Are battlescars.
But in the love we shared
We will transcend
And in that love, the journey never ends.

GD will live on for many more years to come thanks to Crate’s passion for gaming. Thanks guys. You rock!


This sums up the experience very nicely.