Im really wanting to build around it but, everything i can find on it is at least a year old, with lackluster reception. Is a phys stun jacks build workable following recent updates and MIs?
Been thinking bout that and remained with lightning. Physical has the big con of demo not having phys rr.
I canāt imagine spam Physical Jacks will work well for 2 reasons:
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Lack of gear support. Youāre gonna be scrounging around. I got around this in my Chaos Jacks character with Valdaranās Mantle, a +3 Badge of Mastery (not out the question to obtain) and some +1 to all skills/Demolitionist and relic completion bonuses.
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Even if you convert the Lightning to Physical, the other half of your damage is still Physical and quite low with Quick Jacks -x% total damage modifier. Armour is going to eat it.
If I were to seriously consider something like it, i would ignore Quick Jacks and pump skill points into Full Spread and Ulzuinās Chosen to try and capitalise on itās Internal Trauma damage. Though, I wouldnāt expect it to work well going in and to be modest in that regard.
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Yeah, even up close and personal with all jacks impacting the target for burst damage, it looks lackluster due to the inferior damage value compared to Lightning or other damage types, doubly so due to Armor reduction of Phys damage.
Was hoping I missed some new MI that made it relevant. Let me ask you, do you think this is a topic to present in the mastery combo thread? I kept it isolated from that thread because im not sure its relevant to that discussion, but do you think any modifications to mastery combos could make physical stun jacks workable?
This has always been the issue. Stun Jacks is built around the concept of shotgunning enemies, but Armor negates that damage multiplication quite heavily.
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Not sure if worth reviving this topic but I would like to share this build idea https://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZRwmOKN
physical jacks+doom bolt pyromancer. Both skills hardcapped. Few buttons to push. Seems good enough to me. It has Bear devotion to help the Innate physical damage of the skill go through armor. The converted part already ignores armor soā¦
What do you guys think?
btw best prefix for shoulders would be Consecrated for vitality and slow res. It would allow to use a few DA augments too.
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It is fun meme concept, but 1) how are you gonna heal? Bat + Gladiator belt should help with that. 2) I think you sacrifice too much +2db skill just to get it maxed but is lowering +% physical damage.
And with gladiator belt, you dont need that off-hand but can use the one that has -%phys RR proc maybe.
Other than that, I think worth doing 
meme builders unite!
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Bear has adcth, off hand proc is similar to Ghoul, we also heal a bit through Blind Fury and Azrakaa weapon damage + 500 passive health regenerationā¦the healing is there haha.
If I change to gladiator belt I lose 1 projectile of jacks, I would not like to change it. Iām more willing to change the chest piece, Dawnshard Hauberk seems a good alternative with +3 to temper to further increase physical damage and the proc brings damage (since it is fully converted) and survavility to the table too.
I hope one day I can share my legacy of memes here in the forums. Iām just too lazy.
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which is pure crap
You can try push your memes into GrimSheet: Endgame Build Table - ETE edition [v1.30]
I like filling this table with memes. Build guides not required.
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https://www.grimtools.com/calc/p25ml0y2 is what I theorycrafted for Physical Stun Jacks a few months back. Donāt worry about the +5 BoM, Stun Jacks is overcapped by 2 points so someone trying to put the build together realistically could settle with a +3 Badge and pull 2 points from elsewhere to keep it at 26/16.
It isnāt playtested and infact could do with more finetuning Iād say. I have no idea how Stun Jacks is going to carry damage without skill modifiers but the build looks fairly tanky otherwise.
Iād only recommend trying it or Phys Stun Jacks as a whole if youāre prepared for average-at-best performance and unable to run up to Crucible 150 or low-end SR at the worst.
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We need Grim Meme sheet compendium!
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Thatās how I treat the #build-discussion section of the discord half of the time 
. Thereās a lot of weird-ass crap that I donāt test or expect to work in there that I get a sudden interest in building in GT. Some of the ones that actually end up looking good get levelled + played and fewer get build threads posted here.
Maybe we can resurrect this topic:
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Is that needed for armor pass through dmg? 50% of SJ dmg will be just go right through armor and face low res
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Iād say so, the converted Lightning going through armour wonāt be enough on itās own. You really want to squeeze out as much as you can.
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you have to change the gloves to Light Defender Gauntlets.
I think my build is a bit more offensive since we have 2 extra projectiles in stun jacks and also Doom Bolt (which kinda compensates the damage negated by armor to stun jacks).
Also the gear is easier to find. The head piece for instance is craftable and is the lvl 75 version, lol. The amulet is from Death Vigil factionā¦
Loghorroean shoulders of squalls, just get it
I actually got those shoulders in one of my toons. I actually see āof squallsā very often tbh. Anyways, if you donāt feel like hunting for affixes, just replace the medal for this one sold by the Coven https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7551 and it becomes easier to gear but you lose damage bonuses.
Loghorrean of squalls is the BiS though.
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I see meme builds as a way for me to make use of insane rolled MIs that does not fit any meta build. Why let those triple rares just collect dust? 
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