More Characters slots? I hit steam cloud cap...

Ok so I had an awesome system of loot storing for mules…

But I hit the steam cloud cap. Why is there a cap? Is there really so much data per character that necessitates a character cap?

So that’s the first question is how hard would it be for the cap to be raised? Am I asking a lot here? Is it hard to do?

Seems like 50 characters is the cap. Which makes muling sets hard because ideally you’d want only 1 mule per set so it’s more organized?

Second question is can I ‘go around’ the steam cloud cap? Can I store my characters on my computer rather than cloud?

I was very happy with my mule system and I will just say it that this wall hitting the cap takes the fun out of the game for me. Honestly. It makes my enthusiasm for expansion = wait for 50% off sale instead of purchase day one. With the rationale behind that is that I just want to see the new content rather than plan to play the game with every build I can think of and store all the gear. Instead my desire for the game is just to see ‘newness’ of content but not as a game that is replayable in the sense of storing all the gear you want to. So my expectation for the expansion is just to get another 200 hours of play but then move on to another game. Fair enough.

You can save your characters on your computer. The Cloud cap is in place to prevent save corruption in that limited space.

The cap was introduced in the recent 1.0.1.0 update. As detailed by Zantai:

If using Steam Cloud, character creation is now limited to 50. This limitation is a safeguard as Steam Cloud has a maximum file count per game and this could otherwise result in partial corruption of a stored character if the limit is exceeded.

@KondaImmortal: How do you do it? Can you do it ‘in game’? I don’t like to learn about computers moving files and copying files and so forth.

And if I do it after learning how is there really great risk of losing the files if they are not on cloud?

This thread may be of help. You will have to select the option in-game to disable cloud saves.

From the latest major release.

Thanks. Sounds too complicated to me (from the link). I will probably delete some of my mules such as the ones corresponding to sets and just not collect sets. And I have some hardcore characters that I probably won’t play HC again so I can delete those to save slots.

Why not use GD Stash?

Then you don´t need mules. GD Stash is super convient. Just saying.

Tsuelue I might try it. I used TQ Vault for Titan Quest. I don’t like to do ‘computer things’ though so I would hope for a program that I just hit a link to something that says “to install click here” and then easy pop ups and an easy program. I am not much into knowing wtf I am doing copying and erasing files and stuff like that.

I liked my mule system better than TQ Vault was for me. It was a great in game system. I just hit the wall of not having enough space for my mule system though. Just curious but would the GOG version have this problem of limited characters? I might just buy the GOG version bundled with the expansion when that comes out.

Edit: and also come to think of it I did screw up my computer with Titan Quest IT so bad that even after uninstalling reinstalling I could not get it (TQ game only) to work ever again. I think that might have had to do with me installing Vault, Defiler, Underlord, Lilith, masteries… Seriously no joke I did screw it up bad enough that I couldn’t ever get a reinstall to work ever again. Not sure why that happened though or what specifically went wrong.

Edit: and this is a pretty terrible feature of steam cloud to limit your data on an ARPG lol… Won’t be looking to buy a game I want to have unlimited number of characters from steam again in the future though I do like how steam has sales and keeps all my crap together. Data loss is worse but data limitation pretty bad.

while I agree that limiting cloud space is not that great, you can always store saves locally. I never store anything in the cloud.

mamba for me the instructions KondaImmortal linked to are nothing I would attempt. So it’s not an option for me.

They are really easy. If you ever used the Windows Explorer (not IE) to copy a file from one directory to another, you should be able to follow them.

GOG doesn’t do cloud saving at the moment so I understand.

Grim Dawn Item Assistant is another possibility and very easy to use. Just put items you want to save into the 4th shared stash bag in game, exit the smuggler and move away from him and the items are transferred.

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35240

You can also move items from your collection back into the game if you want to use them. They appear in the 3rd shared stash bag when you do this.

Both GDIA and mamba’s GDStash can be used while playing the game which is an improvement over TQVault where you can’t. And while installing GDStash may sound complicated it’s not really. Heck, I managed it and I’m no computer whizz believe me. :smiley:

if you want to keep your Steam saves, you would have to turn them into local saves, at which point you might as well stick to the Steam version

Both GDIA and mamba’s GDStash can be used while playing the game which is an improvement over TQVault where you can’t. And while installing GDStash may sound complicated it’s not really. Heck, I managed it and I’m no computer whizz believe me. :smiley:

Cloud save and changing the shared stash while being in game are not really working together all that well, at least for GD Stash, no idea about IA. Cloud save seems to like to ignore the local file and use the cloud data instead.
Changing local saves while being in game works flawlessly however.

As to installation, if you have Java installed, the installation is unpacking a zip file and following the documentation to set up the tool. So definitely easy for most people, but then most people would not consider the instructions to switch GD from cloud to local saves difficult either, so your level of comfort might be different…

Whoa , no no no! GD Stash can NOT be used while the game is running, otherwise you will totally fuck up your GD Stash database and/or the ingame stash. Don´t do that!

Edit: heh, Mamba beat me to it. Okay, so it works if you are using the local save files. I still wouldn´t risk it though, but hey, I am paranoid. :wink:

Yes it can, I constantly do that. The database also will never be affected by this, the in game stash has no issues either, provided you use local saves and do not have it open in game while changing it in the tool.

Having it open means the changes will be lost, nothing else, ie no corruption, etc.

Using cloud save is a different story however, blame cloud save on that. The tool always writes the file correctly, any screwup is after that point…

Sorry, should have said I don’t use cloud saving and never have. I’m too suspicious of things getting easily lost up there. :smiley: Change files back to local saves and then choose which storage system you want to use.

Yeah for me I’ve never done Windows Explorer. Java is something I drink in the morning hehe. Honestly it would be more attractive to me to lose all my items from 200 hours of play and start over on GOG a year from now with a bundle of GD and expansion. (than install some computer crap) And seriously I won’t consider steam as a platform again for a game I want to play the crap out of and have as many characters as I want.

The second option to the above (stop playing until GOG bundle) is for me to just limit my self to 50 characters. This means stop collecting sets because those take the most mules. And maybe consolidate a few things. Then I can keep most everything I’ve already found aside from sets unless I look at a set and I really want it (then store it to a character). That’s not a bad option. For that I have a level 64 character who I could make it his purpose to farm a lot of dynamite so he can dismantle anything I find that I don’t want to save in my limited set of mules.

oh well, in that case do that… not sure how 200 hours of effort can be considered preferable to 5 minutes when you know what you are doing, maybe 1 hour if you do not and need to figure it out, but that is your decision.

Being less computer illiterate would probably be a good thing in general too, but again, your choice :wink:

Yet, if you learn some computer stuff, and copying files is pretty basic stuff, then you wouldn’t even have to loose anything from your 200 hours of play as you can just copy your save files into the GOG save folder.

Also, from what I’ve read, in order to use GOG’s cloud saving feature, you will need to download their Galaxy client. Just like Steam’s client.

And, does anyone know if there is a limitation on GOG’s cloud save like there is for Steam? Some sort of maximum number and/or size of files?

So it doesn’t seem at all certain that you are actually going to be better off with the GOG version of GD. Something to investigate.