Mythical Arcanum Frigus is stinky doo doo.

OK not entirely, but its Devastation skill mod is, on paper at least. The gun converts a large portion of aether to cold, and presumably you’d use it with Star Pact which also converts a large portion of aether to cold now. There’s not a lot left for the skill mod to do for Devastation. Obviously the next step would be to convert the fire to cold. Hey, there’s an item for that! Too bad it’s an amulet though, so you can’t use it with the new Harra’s set. (presumably what you’d use the gun with, you can’t use the gun with the other cold Arcanist set at all [Trozan’s]) So now you have to choose between a skill mod which has its damage already mostly converted anyway, or break the set and not get the cold Callidor’s Tempest to pair it with, defeating the purpose. It’s time to make that skill mod useful.

tl;dr Please change the Devastation mod on the weapon to fire–>cold instead.

It was already suggested in another thread which was made just a few days ago. :stuck_out_tongue:

Was it? Great minds think alike. :slight_smile:

EDIT: Seems like I even posted in that topic, and forgot all about it. Oops. :eek:

I mean, I know I am great, but you don’t have to say that out loud. We could just make that our secret, you know. :stuck_out_tongue:

You can pair the gun with anasteria’s helm, terrnox’s tome, the cold devastation amulet, and the Eastern Oath set for a very respectable build as well. I agree that the item could use better synergy with Harra, but I wouldn’t want to lose the aether conversion because star pact doesn’t cover all of the conversion needs. I’d support reducing the conversion value to 50% though if it gave the gun better harra support.

Edit: never mind about the aether conversion bit, I forgot the gun has 45% base

I don;t understand. You have full aether> Cold for devastation and also good global conversion.

You also have so many items that convert fire to cold independently and also whispers ammy that converts fire to cold fully for the fully tweaked.

The amount of conversion modding you are suggesting is akin to set bonuses on a single item. This is a build that unlocks at and game lvl 94 and there are items to support that.

By picking the gun and Star pact (level 12), you already have 85% aether >> cold (assuming your gun has 45%). The conversion for Devastation is quite pointless at this point because you’ll either farm for at least 50% conversion on the gun and still get boosts to Star pact, so you’ll end up most likely with at least 92% conversion. Right now the gun doesn’t have any conversion to Devastation, we could say. With a perfect conversion roll and +3 to all arcanist/+3 star pact you already have 100% conversion, so most of time time, if not always, the conversion to devastation doesn’t take place.

It’s not pointless because global conversion and mod conversion is not additive.

lvl 12 40% form Star pact+ 45% global from gun is ~67% Aether>cold conversion. Which helps pros and other stuff you want to use your imagination with. But the Devastation mod assures consistency for your main skill.

The Fire> cold global conversion from armor items is additive and if you have whispers ammy you are done.

If you went something like this: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/mN4yPBx2 (I didn’t choose the Hara’s ward because the set completion doesn’t offer too much as for what I wanted to do)
the base 36% form the gun would be enough to get over 100% conversion from aether >> cold. Lowest rolls from gear = 56%, another 50% from Star Pact, the conversion from the gun (modifier) is useless.

There’s no much effort, you only need few points to Star pact, and I doubt you’d want to go Reckless Power for a Devastation build. I do agree fire >> cold if quite popular now, but that doesn’t change the fact this gun’s conversion in the modifier is useless.

Aaaah… what? Global conversion from masteries and global conversion from gear have different order of conversion NOW?

Modifier -> the rest what’s coming from conversion -> goobal.

Example: you have 100 fire damage and item modifies it to deal 50% aether, then you have 50% fire >> cold, so you deal 25 fire, 25 cold, 50 aether.

Mh, I thought that only applied to conversions from/to different damage types, such as elemental conversion combined with individual fire/cold/lightning conversions, whereas individual conversions were always additive. These mechanics really weren’t designed for clarity, were they? :stuck_out_tongue:

I know the order of conversion mechanic but both 54% (toproll) on Frigus and ~50% on Starpact are global (I’m not talking about the Devastation modifier). It’s always been additive at the same order of conversion, hasn’t it? Just like 15% phys to lightning on Stormcaller Pact and phys to lightning on many weapons.

Yeah, as far as I know those are additive. I mean, both are applied to ANY damage of that particular type.

If i’m wrong then you are right and the devastation mod needs more flat dmg or something. Fire part is manageable

…but I don’t want less than half of Devastation converted to cold. I want almost all of it.
…and I want to do it with the Harrah’s set so I can use it with cold Callidor’s Tempest.
…and I can’t do that with Conduit of Arcane Whispers, which I already knew about
…which is the whole point of this thread
…why do I even post if people are just going to suggest things I already rejected… :rolleyes:

https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/12122
https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/12217

You can use those if you won’t get your request :slight_smile: 75% is better than zero.

Pistol is awkward af, I agree with the op. It should have “100 fire converted to cold on Devastation”. Otherwise I would never use it with Harra’s set on my Spellbreaker over beautiful and mighty Mythical Crescent Moon axe.

The Sorcerer version of Harra would be awesome with that belt… if Sorcerer had any cold resistance reduction at all. :cry: That’s a decent medal, though.

Without cold resist reduction from mastery Harra’s Sorcerer will be very weak. Set needs to add cold RR to Calidor or Stun Jacks if it’s possible.