praetors so stubbornly refuse to provide proof of their words
that I’m beginning to question their competence.
if I were a praetor
i made this video
starting from the main menu so everyone can see the version of the game
Questioning the competence of someone that probably hasn’t had the time to make a video because maybe, i don’t know, he’s busy at work? You asked for video like two hours ago. Maybe he hasn’t had time to make a video yet.
And you are seriously questioning Fluff for his competence, one of the people here in the forum that does the most build testing. :rolleyes:
i can understang everything
he can just say
“oh man i have no time now. but later i do video. and we shall see is it bug or not”
but… what he answer
“I have to prove this shit?”
and start to lie
this is not cool man , and will lead this topic to nowhere trust me.
you guys have valid opinions and videos, some of them are abit meh even to me, but i tried to explain most by my ‘limited’ game knowledge.
i know fluff since ages, he is cool guy and prolly last person id question about his GD knowledge experience and talent.
do whatever you want, whatever you say but a little bit of ‘respect’…
then i am sure we can figure out whats going on high shard sr…
I don’t agree with nerfing Val and the other Alex wannabes. Almost every build don’t have problems with them even with maiven/mirror/whatever. Previous patches or present, it doesn’t matter. No problems on everything regarding those people… Until a canister build showed up and can’t kill them. Now is the problem on the bosses or in canister bomb? I think this part hasn’t been given much thought by OP before posting. On first look it was obvious that canister bomb has some problem, not the bosses.
EDIT NOTE: canister bomb prolly has hit box issue or bug, there is no way those bosses reduce that amount of dmg. prolly its bug or somesorta problem.
Maybe that or maybe canister just doesn’t hit those guys effectively by default. The spread on that skill is pretty wide and it’s not like anyone has made a canister build this strong before that someone has noticed that it doesn’t kill those guys because canister was pretty shit back then.
Re: praetorian spite
The hell are you wanting for a three consecutive SR run? It won’t prove anything. If someone posts 3x sr runs, but then afterwards does an unrecorded 3x failed consecutive runs then it’s still 50% success rate. It’s the same with the vids you guys posted. You get oneshots but then that’s just one run. How do we know that you’re doing consistently well outside of the fail videos posted? Posting vids from menu screen so we can see version number? The vids on the OP don’t have that. Even if it was posted after the hotfix who knows if it was recorded before the hotfix, or the game was just not updated - there are too many ways to do that.
What I wanna say is that while we shouldn’t take what anyone says at face value, there’s no reason to be hard on people over proving something you yourselves can’t get enough proof. The “not enough sample size” card can be easily used here for both sides.
@ Omnitrio:
Calm down or GTFO. Sorry, can´t say it with other words.
It is one thing to ask the devs and praetorians to have a look at something. And you have to live with opinions different from yours. But to call someone an outright liar, who contributed a little bit more to this community than you have, is hilarious.
How exactly do you know it’s not a crit? Because it looks very much like a crit.
Cruel mutator - major crit dmg (that other mutator looks like oa boost but I’m not sure)
Gabal’s aa - 155 reduced da
Gabal’s aura - -255 da
Gabal’s totem buff - +25% oa
Gabal’s nuke - 30 reduced rr
Gabal’s nova (what killed you) - 692 Physical Damage, 730 Fire Damage, 730 Chaos Damage
The only problem I see is that Mazaan the Gate Keeper even let you in to SR75 with 7% overcap on elemental and pierce res not even capped. That 9k crit was unlucky but nothing out of ordinary. It was already being punished hard by his pierce autoattack. I’ve seen crits of 15k by Reaper on regular basis and in Crucible (no SR scaling) and with my res solid and buffed. This is nothing out of ordinary.
Contains yourself, child.
Did you know Praetorians get patches days, and sometimes months, ahead of you?
I’m honored by your investigation, personally I didn’t even consider that hotfix since it has nothing to do with SR.
But i’m going to double down on my LIES and have myself some SR now
Just played Shard 75. Double Valdaran, Korvaak, Jarren.
Died once because of stupid small arena and even more stupid teleport ping-pong. :rolleyes:
Nothing different as before patch. But okay, no of the mentioned bosses. Ah, and Yes, I was on all steroids I found in my satchel.
i’m doing no potions as I type/ upload video
We have nothing to prove to you. We don’t need to bend over backwards to record a video to prove anything to you. Believe us or don’t, but do not namecall.
We have better things to do than deceive you.
I’ve tested Superfluff’s Belgothian in shard 75-76 runs. It’s fine.
With all due respect, but I don’t remember us testing hotfixes because they are, well, hotfixes.
Their claim is that the difficulty broke down specifically in hotfix 3. Hotfix 1&2 were fine.
Don’t ask me how it is possible, because best I could do is to quote you on some shadow snake that lives in the code.
sometimes, to achieve its goal, you have to make radical decisions
I did what I had to do for the game
Shard 76, Womens´Party featuring Benn´Jhar:
Iron Maiden, Anasteria, Janaxia.
No deaths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U19LZMSrOd4&feature=youtu.be - video is unlisted and only for the purpose of this thread
Belgo SR 75 testing 1.1.2.3 in video
-I’m using the SR 80 version that has the lowest damage output
- I have shattered and ARmored mutator which is the worst combo for this build and low dps
- I am not suicidal agrroing everything in the run but fighting Kuba/Kymon from the start. No ugly bursts, full face tank, the fight is stable in spite of lifestal being shit due to mutators
- The build is able to out DPS Kuba heals in spite of worse mutators to be had.
- No buff potions
- No shrines
Boss composition is rng but i think this one will do. I hope this won’t be an argument cause i don’t have time to make videos until a boss combo to everyone’s liking occurs
Edit: Just to take this debate lower than it has been taken, here’s a pic and what i’ve had for breakfast:
Now I’ve seen the explanations going on in this thread.
But I do think something weird is happening here in a few places.
Quote from someone I know in discord who regularly runs 75-80+ (yes, he knows it’s not efficient, but it’s fun). Worth noting that this is a 2 player run.
“idk what the actual fuck was that
we just had a boss level with okaloth, gargabol, grava and ben, took us over 80 deaths to get through that on 78, damage was absolutely ridiculous
on 80 we facetanked kaisan + kymon + valdaran and some irrelevant boss that I don’t even remember
same run, so no different mutators
and that was actually pretty easy mutators
couldn’t even kite properly at 78, because it was oneshot fest, every single attack oneshotted
it’s like boss level was scaled to like 90-100+, rather than 78
we shouldn’t have been oneshot randomly by default attacks of these bosses or even just random poison shots 3 shards earlier
for example, single crystal trap from ben removed ~75% hp of my friend under mark of torment and overguard
we met ben on 81 too and it wasn’t half as bad
it really felt like bosses were scaled to some extremely high shard, instead of 78
even their hp was unusually high
and btw even cluster wasn’t enough to survive the damage they were dealing, tried like 6 times to cluster through the damage and died under 0.5 seconds”
They got through it by having crystal traps be cleared only when he was under mirror, and he was kiting 3 of the bosses while the other deals with 1 boss at a time.
This may be some bug that happens for some way more often than others. Because he’s run tons of SR since the patch and this is the first and only time this has happened. Most of the videos shown here are explainable in some way though.
Also yeah fuck ishtal. Pre-patch he leapslammed me and Grim Internals reported 3128 IT damage per second at SR 41 on a character with 15% absorb + 32 phys res. And it really was that much. Part of why my peak SR pre-patch was 42 in HC.
we just had a boss level with okaloth, gargabol, grava and ben, took us over 80 deaths to get through that on 78, damage was absolutely ridiculous
This combo is arguably one of the hardest combos that gets harder if Okaloth gets replaced with something more dangerous. Yes, Benn’Jhar is actually dangerous with allies, 38 flat RR from afar and trapping helps a lot.
on 80 we facetanked kaisan + kymon + valdaran and some irrelevant boss that I don’t even remember
The only one here even dangerous is Kaisan. Kymon outside of his MC arena becomes far easier.
Don´t underestimate Valdaran on higher Shards. He does serious damage (so not so much as others) but most annoying is his ability to teleport/switch places(?) with the toon on range. If you have the small arena, maybe you will pull every other boss…and get teleported right into Benn´Jhar´s traps isn´t funny either…
I just made a 2x Valdaran at 76 facetank too but i guess that’s not exciting so i won’t post. I wanted to link a video with notched bone as well