Please tell me which build is the strongest and powerful,thx!

Sorry to ask, but I am totally out of the loop. How or why was the buff bullshit and which builds were using it to make their builds OP? I feel lost here.

Ever since like 10 patches ago Stormreaver Vindicator was already a top tier build. Like top tier of all top tiers. Popularized by ccsenn, one of the chinese guys we were talking about in this thread. While most of the top builds were nerfed. Stormreaver got buffed. It’s part of a universal 2h buff but still it doesn’t feel right buffing an already OP build.

+2 Demo, Occultist or Soldier instead of the support to the already strong Vindicator would be really nice. It’s also a lightning cadence weapon after all.

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Dismantling archetype builds is really nice?

yes, it is, especially on guaranteed drop weapons. nvm mistook it for stormheart

Would you really call removing +2 to Inquisitor from stormreaver “dismantling”? Lmao

I don’t see why they couldn’t nerf both :smiling_imp:

Beside as a non-competetitive player which plays almost only in campaign, i don’t fear nerfs that much. dead builds are only deads in SR 60+ and Cruci 150+ most of the times.

They aren’t even dead for that content most of the time. They can still do it, just a little slower.

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But most of the players, that write often in the forum are playing almost exclusively SR 65+ or Gladiator 170. So that’s the reaction you should expect.

When I was playing only in campaign and mostly just leveling builds, don’t really read patch notes, cause I don’t care about changes.

I’m exaggerating a bit but look at this like this. Until recently all I did in GD is optimizing my own builds and other people’s builds to the last skillpoint and speedrunning. I like the sense of achievement it gives.

Now, someone posted an update of Stormreaver lately that had lots of potential. Actually, after I optimized it a little it looked like it could even beat my own Stormreaver record from the last patch before the crucible buffs. But why should I even bother putting it together when it’s gonna get nerfed next week?

As a matter of fact, why should anyone bother with any kind of achievements in GD when everything is getting nerfed all the time. Why should anyone bother making great builds when everything is turning mediocre and irrelevant.

It is part of the game, play seasons in Diablo III or PoE and you know that your build is valid in that patch/season and then you have to make a new one in the next.

Perfecting builds you can do when Grim Dawn is finalized. That is a major reason why I do not min/max in Grim Dawn (at least not at the level you other guys are doing it), it’s just waste of time at this point. (when Grim Dawn gets finalized, I will just wipe my stuff clean and start all over, again lol)

The funny thing is Belgo went untouched but deathmarked got nerfed nerfed nerfed again.
The only reason is ppl keep update deathmarked set builds and let alone Belgo?
Invoker’s Elements set got nerfed? Demonslayer set got nerfed? They’re not imbalanced, they are not even strong, but the developers :yum::yum:

This is a very good point. But Blizzard and GG Games do it strictly for commercial reasons.

That’s not entirely accurate. Notched Bone which was a part of the fastest Belgo setup was nerfed. Belgo was being regularly updated by Superfluff since the dawn of time. Demonslayer and Invoker were both very strong.

But your point about Nerfmarked is by all means valid.

Good selfawareness.

Aaand you are back to exaggerating. That was quick.

I don’t care what the underlying reasons are, it will still affect me the “same”.

The difference is that an experience GD player already have all items, have +20 chars, can level up a new char in less than 10 hours and/or just use GD stash.

In online ARPGs with seasons, you have to start from zero again which is more drastic IMO.

you mean Notched Bone of a Thousand Deaths?
LOL just got rekt by Fabius with this weapon at SR 89 yesterday. one hit dead by his bullsxxt shadow strike on my Druid. Left me nothing to say…

This isn’t a complain about nerfs thread folks, so back on topic. OP wants to know the strongest and most powerful builds so suggestions?

i remember someone once said they got instagibbed out of nowhere by fabius wearing that notched axe.