[REL] Grimarillion

If it were easy, everyone would be doing it. :stuck_out_tongue:

Salazar’s dungeon does not always scale to your level even in Vanilla. I believe it’s minimum level is around 21-23, whereas you can easily access it by level 13 and get shrekt by Salazar.

That was not changed by Grimmer&Grimmest.

Its a minimum of 18 I believe and it scales a lot steeper aswell.
Still I think it should be somewhat in line to other content either way.

Regarding @Amon_GD’s little complaint about this to him personally totally overboard – and therefore fairly unprepared to deal with! – Salazar Encounter (I experienced exactly the same leading to my thus pretty unavoidable 1 & only death in this combi mod run so far), i.e. in all those mods that have incorporated Jiaoc’s renowned uber challenging changes, Salazar is NOW compared to GD Vanilla accompanied by up to 4 additional pretty tough baddies … in addition to the potential 4 x times occurrence of himself!!!, and ohh also in addition to the constant presence of his own spell-controlled re-spawnable ‘Harbinger’ of course. All this in a btw very small & cramped area from where you cannot escape before you defeat him! Potentially totally OVERBOARD indeed!!!

In any event I regret to inform at least SOME of you who have been commenting on this type of complaint (whether it’s in this thread or more profoundly in other ones relating to Jiaco’s original mod work) that you are possibly ehmmm slightly misinformed :wink: with regard to what EXACTLY was changed / not changed by the obviously well-meaning Jiaco, so alas here is a CLOSE-UP look of the following file “p_cultistdungeona01.dbr” from version 0.35 found in:

database/records/proxies/boss&quest/boss&questpools

and what has been mod altered , along the merry way :D, compared to GD Vanilla (using the nifty program ‘Beyond Compare’):

  • “championChance” FROM = 0.0000 TO 1.0000 (Extra champion(s) now ALWAYS appear if “Max” is < 0)
  • “championMax” FROM = 0 TO 4 !!! (Self-explanatory)
  • “championMin” FROM = 0 TO 2 !!! (Self-explanatory)
  • 1st appearing “limit” FROM = 1,1 TO 1,4 !!! (The latter figure in the very 1st appearing instance of this specific 2-figures line control how many copies of a given Boss CAN appear in said encounter)
  • 2nd appearing “limit” FROM 2,1 TO 2,2 !!! (Effectively doubling the number of Salazar’s default companion, I believe)
  • “spawnMax” FROM = 2 TO 4

SPECIAL NOTE: spawnMax, spawnMin and then these following lines below which all have been ADDED compared to GD Vanilla, all control Salazar’s shall we say suddenly brand NEW strong posse of ‘Bodyguards’!:

levelVarianceEquationChampion1,records/proxies/lv6_hero.dbr,
levelVarianceEquationChampion2,records/proxies/lv6_hero.dbr,
levelVarianceEquationChampion3,records/proxies/lv6_hero.dbr,
levelVarianceEquationChampion4,records/proxies/lv6_hero.dbr,
levelVarianceEquationChampion5,records/proxies/lv6_hero.dbr,
limitChampion1,1,
limitChampion2,1,
limitChampion3,1,
limitChampion4,1,
limitChampion5,1,
nameChampion1,records/creatures/enemies/hero/chthonianleech_h01.dbr,
nameChampion2,records/creatures/enemies/hero/chthonianleech_h02.dbr,
nameChampion3,records/creatures/enemies/hero/chthonianleech_h03.dbr,
nameChampion4,records/creatures/enemies/hero/chthonianleech_h04.dbr,
nameChampion5,records/creatures/enemies/hero/chthonianleech_h05.dbr,
weightChampion1,50,
weightChampion2,50,
weightChampion3,50,
weightChampion4,50,
weightChampion5,50,

and lastly the 2 basic weight levels for this encounter (“weight1,100” + “weight2,100”) have also been buffed FROM 100 TO 125.

No offense, specific or general, intended … but all you super long members and/or completely unconditional worshippers of Crate’s own released tweaks :rolleyes: of these sacred GD Forums: Kindly please remember that we are all NOT so called “super elitists GD jockeys”!!!, even though many of us have prior experience with ARPGs up to the point where some might even having viewed themselves as veteran’ish within this genre prior to taking on GD, and/or having actually played GD for a considerable time without yet having “mastered it” quiet like some of you esteemed Über Beings! :smiley: lol

…so as my ‘Bottomline’ I simply repeat:

Compared to GD Vanilla in Grimmest we are currently having (for just 1 great example mind you!) the venerable Boss Salazar being accompanied by up to 4 additional pretty tough baddies … in addition to the potential 4 x times occurrence of himself!!!, plus the constant presence of his own spell-controlled re-spanawble ‘Harbinger’ of course. ALL this in a btw very small & cramped area of Act 1 from where you cannot escape before you defeat him! is indeed potentially totally OVERBOARD to a significant number of players, not the least those that prefer playing in Hardcore Mode where you obviously per definition cannot afford to die not even once!

Therefore there are in reality probably quite a notable number of players who would warmly welcome an upcoming overhaul, by Jiaco himself or others, of some (not all!) of these here Grimmest “boss&quest” related proxie .dbr files, because as I strongly hinted above this here Depraved Sanctuary encounter is far from the only one which is potentially overboard, both in regard to it’s number of actual boss occurrences as well as the sheer number of accompanying strong baddies in said encounter … and on a more personal note I myself would strongly prefer ALL quest related boss encounters did not have more than just the 1 x time boss occurrence (if it’s seemingly “to easy” then simply add in some more random strong baddies as the backing vocals) because as I have alluded to in prior posts having for example 4 x Milton Hart which also means 4 x times Milton Hart note and 4 x times Milton Hart amulet btw was/is just plain BEYOND SILLY gameplay imho!!!

PS: Otherwise please carry on your immensely commendable modding & tweaking job of both this here combi mod and it’s individual off-springs, dear awesome GD modders! :slight_smile:

I guess it is time to make some videos on how to handle this optional encounter, in an optional difficulty (Grimmest), in an optional play style (HC), in an optional play experience (mod Grimarillion), that Jiaco has expressed he will not water down, for no other reason than than to show that it is possible.

I really do not want to increase the size of the mod by including a map with a smaller room for the Salazar encounter. I will just try to add some more heroes I guess so the room feels smaller.

Sounds like it would become a prison ‘experience.’ A tiny little cell, Salazar and his friends corner you with no where to run…

??? Mellow out Fanboy!!! :mad: And please don’t you start using that über patronizing tone with me especially (or others less capable posters here for that matter) or else I will go seriously “Jason” on your cyberspace a@@ dear! Promise! :furious:

Now nowhere did I imply it was NOT remotely possible … rather on no more than on 2 occasions did I refer to his particular encounter as being one of those that is STILL “potentially overboard”, even after all this time with Jiaco’s mod , especially for 1) more or less rookies or 2) even just for players notably far from being an self-perceived ‘Elitist GD jockey’! :wink:

(FYI I personally see myself as neither of the above 2 btw. I’m unmistakably “very skillful” and thorough in lots of seriously demanding ARPG games or just demanding games in general (incl something as “banal” as good old chess or Magic The Gathering lol) actually but I’ve soooo much other real interesting and demanding stuff going on in my life apart from my fascination with gaming, be it board or PC, that I always have not invested enough weekly hours it to ever really reached something close to “Elitist” status … and lo and behold I continue to be perfectly happy with that, particularly at my now fairly advanced age :D) )

But back to GD, I 'm currently running a ‘Lifebender’ who is so far just steamrolling 97+% of everything thrown at me in this combi-mod , aye even from real on early on in Act 1 (see my build guidelines elsewhere on this thread) and which would have had NO problem with Salazar either – as I normally don’t if coming prepared – had I known there would be an random generated chance of there being the maxed 4 extra baddies + more than 1 harbinger + of course possible multiple occurrences of the Boss himself in this entrapped (obviously can’t reopen door before Salazar is dead) encounter … which was exactly what there was on my hardcore run!
Alas as described earlier I suffered my only death so far as a direct result of this by chance maximum size of creatures incl this ‘Posse of Bodyguards’ being there in that VERY small space! And it pi@@ed me off further since I was playing Hardcore!

Thus I repeat it was not because I did not came ‘Fully Prepared’ or is in any way form or shape a careless and/or more or less implied feeble-minded player! I have always entered dangerous areas prepared to the “best of my current abilities and current level equipment” so to speak, also while playing GD, and aye also when entering the Depraved Sanctuary, which I usually do somewhere between level 16-22, meaning seriously high on Vitality, Bleeding and even Chaos protection + with several solid life protecting Spells & tricks at hand this time incl. the always handy especially in Act 1 “Equilibrium” relic & “Turtle Shell” celestial power in effect.
Damage Output wise I this time entered capable of handling out a pretty sizable amounts of both Reflected Damage & Retaliation Damage IN ADDITION to the vast amount of my enhanced main build damage (posion on this 2nd Lifebender run)!

Bottom-line as I have implied twice already this particular Boss encounter would personally have posed little sweat on my part (but there are other potential overboard problems with a few others in cramped areas in both Act 2, 3 and 4 imho) had there been “around” the expected number of baddies -/+ “a couple” of extras nasties even … But if some one here still think it’s somehow warranted to upload videos and what not for the purpose of guiding other players than yours truly through this particular encounter, well you have my blessing doing so too PROVIDED it’s done in a tutorial friendly good manner & tone meaning in a non-patronizing and superior-like lecturing one!

You win. I’m not going to read all of that. On my way out, allow me to impart some wisdom:

Love it for what it is, not what you want it to be.

I have no response but this one:


Maybe you would be taken more seriously if you weren’t such an ass.

I’m sorry. :cry:

  1. “I win” ??? When was this here frank discussion ever about “winning” anything??? Not the most mature & respectful reply you could have come up with I gather, regardless of your actual age & intellect!

  2. “All that”??? Ahhh I see could it possible be so that you just happen to be yet another one of those ‘Redneck’ / ‘Simpleton’ internet posters who are incapable of curling your head, seriously susceptible to be intoxicated head btw, around something more than say maximum 10 lines post??? :smiley: lol

As for Words of Wisdom, Well thanx! They are naturally always welcome … even for one as learned and genuinely triple 'Mensa Test passing as I :smiley: lol
HOWEVER as I implied in an earlier post I can fairly easily make the changes myself to “what I want it to be”. Period! … if not for on a more serious point “excuse me!” cause I ehmmm thought that major part of the function of this here thread was to make constructive input s& feed-backs based on experiences from playing said mod for the noble purpose of making it’s developers more aware on how to improve and basically make this particular mod better for ALL types & levels of players seeking predominantly that extra monster challenge which I believe Jiaco originated in his original mod way back??? Hmmm apparently I was wrong on that one (the thread’s major purpose)… so SORRY! My bad. :stuck_out_tongue:

  1. Yes

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PS. Mr. Menstruation, my post about making a video was not directed specifically at you. Though flipping your top and going “Jason” was an entertaining reaction.

LOL! Aye I’m in fact renowned (elsewhere both on and off the Net) for being a real certified Bad A@@ alright :slight_smile: … but personally you have seen nothing yet dear Alien! But anyhow please just carry on with your macho sounding but quite unmistakably infantile and pitiful NON-sarcastic & BASELESS insults (and accompanying images! wow!) if it if makes you feel big, important or even aroused in any way … all btw from the as always super safe comfort of your armchair!

I believe someone was trolled once upon, thus becoming overly defensive to interwebs banter. Grind that axe.

I was not flipping my top for REAL dear (the " " + chosen emoticons affixed and all) … Anyway I have much better things to do on a Saturday than continue to argue this minuscule subject over and over … so Peace & Love (for now at least :D) “friendo” … and may a Falcons win make your awesome Redneck-like :rolleyes: Saturday complete! lol

And on that note I’m out for good for this here day (So to the rest of you out there just let them creative personal insults commence OK? lol)

Thank you for your feedback, sir. No more will be required of you as your superior intellect appears to be hindering your ability to socialize and interact with us common folk.

(This has to be some kind of elaborate troll. Is that you Davood?)

You guys done?

I will clean this thread soon. So read it once more if you are enjoying this.

Awe, we just having fun.

take a chillpill…

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