If it were easy, everyone would be doing it.
Salazarâs dungeon does not always scale to your level even in Vanilla. I believe itâs minimum level is around 21-23, whereas you can easily access it by level 13 and get shrekt by Salazar.
That was not changed by Grimmer&Grimmest.
Its a minimum of 18 I believe and it scales a lot steeper aswell.
Still I think it should be somewhat in line to other content either way.
Regarding @Amon_GDâs little complaint about this to him personally totally overboard â and therefore fairly unprepared to deal with! â Salazar Encounter (I experienced exactly the same leading to my thus pretty unavoidable 1 & only death in this combi mod run so far), i.e. in all those mods that have incorporated Jiaocâs renowned uber challenging changes, Salazar is NOW compared to GD Vanilla accompanied by up to 4 additional pretty tough baddies ⌠in addition to the potential 4 x times occurrence of himself!!!, and ohh also in addition to the constant presence of his own spell-controlled re-spawnable âHarbingerâ of course. All this in a btw very small & cramped area from where you cannot escape before you defeat him! Potentially totally OVERBOARD indeed!!!
In any event I regret to inform at least SOME of you who have been commenting on this type of complaint (whether itâs in this thread or more profoundly in other ones relating to Jiacoâs original mod work) that you are possibly ehmmm slightly misinformed with regard to what EXACTLY was changed / not changed by the obviously well-meaning Jiaco, so alas here is a CLOSE-UP look of the following file âp_cultistdungeona01.dbrâ from version 0.35 found in:
database/records/proxies/boss&quest/boss&questpools
and what has been mod altered , along the merry way :D, compared to GD Vanilla (using the nifty program âBeyond Compareâ):
- âchampionChanceâ FROM = 0.0000 TO 1.0000 (Extra champion(s) now ALWAYS appear if âMaxâ is < 0)
- âchampionMaxâ FROM = 0 TO 4 !!! (Self-explanatory)
- âchampionMinâ FROM = 0 TO 2 !!! (Self-explanatory)
- 1st appearing âlimitâ FROM = 1,1 TO 1,4 !!! (The latter figure in the very 1st appearing instance of this specific 2-figures line control how many copies of a given Boss CAN appear in said encounter)
- 2nd appearing âlimitâ FROM 2,1 TO 2,2 !!! (Effectively doubling the number of Salazarâs default companion, I believe)
- âspawnMaxâ FROM = 2 TO 4
SPECIAL NOTE: spawnMax, spawnMin and then these following lines below which all have been ADDED compared to GD Vanilla, all control Salazarâs shall we say suddenly brand NEW strong posse of âBodyguardsâ!:
levelVarianceEquationChampion1,records/proxies/lv6_hero.dbr,
levelVarianceEquationChampion2,records/proxies/lv6_hero.dbr,
levelVarianceEquationChampion3,records/proxies/lv6_hero.dbr,
levelVarianceEquationChampion4,records/proxies/lv6_hero.dbr,
levelVarianceEquationChampion5,records/proxies/lv6_hero.dbr,
limitChampion1,1,
limitChampion2,1,
limitChampion3,1,
limitChampion4,1,
limitChampion5,1,
nameChampion1,records/creatures/enemies/hero/chthonianleech_h01.dbr,
nameChampion2,records/creatures/enemies/hero/chthonianleech_h02.dbr,
nameChampion3,records/creatures/enemies/hero/chthonianleech_h03.dbr,
nameChampion4,records/creatures/enemies/hero/chthonianleech_h04.dbr,
nameChampion5,records/creatures/enemies/hero/chthonianleech_h05.dbr,
weightChampion1,50,
weightChampion2,50,
weightChampion3,50,
weightChampion4,50,
weightChampion5,50,
and lastly the 2 basic weight levels for this encounter (âweight1,100â + âweight2,100â) have also been buffed FROM 100 TO 125.
No offense, specific or general, intended ⌠but all you super long members and/or completely unconditional worshippers of Crateâs own released tweaks :rolleyes: of these sacred GD Forums: Kindly please remember that we are all NOT so called âsuper elitists GD jockeysâ!!!, even though many of us have prior experience with ARPGs up to the point where some might even having viewed themselves as veteranâish within this genre prior to taking on GD, and/or having actually played GD for a considerable time without yet having âmastered itâ quiet like some of you esteemed Ăber Beings! lol
âŚso as my âBottomlineâ I simply repeat:
Compared to GD Vanilla in Grimmest we are currently having (for just 1 great example mind you!) the venerable Boss Salazar being accompanied by up to 4 additional pretty tough baddies ⌠in addition to the potential 4 x times occurrence of himself!!!, plus the constant presence of his own spell-controlled re-spanawble âHarbingerâ of course. ALL this in a btw very small & cramped area of Act 1 from where you cannot escape before you defeat him! is indeed potentially totally OVERBOARD to a significant number of players, not the least those that prefer playing in Hardcore Mode where you obviously per definition cannot afford to die not even once!
Therefore there are in reality probably quite a notable number of players who would warmly welcome an upcoming overhaul, by Jiaco himself or others, of some (not all!) of these here Grimmest âboss&questâ related proxie .dbr files, because as I strongly hinted above this here Depraved Sanctuary encounter is far from the only one which is potentially overboard, both in regard to itâs number of actual boss occurrences as well as the sheer number of accompanying strong baddies in said encounter ⌠and on a more personal note I myself would strongly prefer ALL quest related boss encounters did not have more than just the 1 x time boss occurrence (if itâs seemingly âto easyâ then simply add in some more random strong baddies as the backing vocals) because as I have alluded to in prior posts having for example 4 x Milton Hart which also means 4 x times Milton Hart note and 4 x times Milton Hart amulet btw was/is just plain BEYOND SILLY gameplay imho!!!
PS: Otherwise please carry on your immensely commendable modding & tweaking job of both this here combi mod and itâs individual off-springs, dear awesome GD modders!
I guess it is time to make some videos on how to handle this optional encounter, in an optional difficulty (Grimmest), in an optional play style (HC), in an optional play experience (mod Grimarillion), that Jiaco has expressed he will not water down, for no other reason than than to show that it is possible.
I really do not want to increase the size of the mod by including a map with a smaller room for the Salazar encounter. I will just try to add some more heroes I guess so the room feels smaller.
Sounds like it would become a prison âexperience.â A tiny little cell, Salazar and his friends corner you with no where to runâŚ
??? Mellow out Fanboy!!! :mad: And please donât you start using that Ăźber patronizing tone with me especially (or others less capable posters here for that matter) or else I will go seriously âJasonâ on your cyberspace a@@ dear! Promise! :furious:
Now nowhere did I imply it was NOT remotely possible ⌠rather on no more than on 2 occasions did I refer to his particular encounter as being one of those that is STILL âpotentially overboardâ, even after all this time with Jiacoâs mod , especially for 1) more or less rookies or 2) even just for players notably far from being an self-perceived âElitist GD jockeyâ!
(FYI I personally see myself as neither of the above 2 btw. Iâm unmistakably âvery skillfulâ and thorough in lots of seriously demanding ARPG games or just demanding games in general (incl something as âbanalâ as good old chess or Magic The Gathering lol) actually but Iâve soooo much other real interesting and demanding stuff going on in my life apart from my fascination with gaming, be it board or PC, that I always have not invested enough weekly hours it to ever really reached something close to âElitistâ status ⌠and lo and behold I continue to be perfectly happy with that, particularly at my now fairly advanced age :D) )
But back to GD, I 'm currently running a âLifebenderâ who is so far just steamrolling 97+% of everything thrown at me in this combi-mod , aye even from real on early on in Act 1 (see my build guidelines elsewhere on this thread) and which would have had NO problem with Salazar either â as I normally donât if coming prepared â had I known there would be an random generated chance of there being the maxed 4 extra baddies + more than 1 harbinger + of course possible multiple occurrences of the Boss himself in this entrapped (obviously canât reopen door before Salazar is dead) encounter ⌠which was exactly what there was on my hardcore run!
Alas as described earlier I suffered my only death so far as a direct result of this by chance maximum size of creatures incl this âPosse of Bodyguardsâ being there in that VERY small space! And it pi@@ed me off further since I was playing Hardcore!
Thus I repeat it was not because I did not came âFully Preparedâ or is in any way form or shape a careless and/or more or less implied feeble-minded player! I have always entered dangerous areas prepared to the âbest of my current abilities and current level equipmentâ so to speak, also while playing GD, and aye also when entering the Depraved Sanctuary, which I usually do somewhere between level 16-22, meaning seriously high on Vitality, Bleeding and even Chaos protection + with several solid life protecting Spells & tricks at hand this time incl. the always handy especially in Act 1 âEquilibriumâ relic & âTurtle Shellâ celestial power in effect.
Damage Output wise I this time entered capable of handling out a pretty sizable amounts of both Reflected Damage & Retaliation Damage IN ADDITION to the vast amount of my enhanced main build damage (posion on this 2nd Lifebender run)!
Bottom-line as I have implied twice already this particular Boss encounter would personally have posed little sweat on my part (but there are other potential overboard problems with a few others in cramped areas in both Act 2, 3 and 4 imho) had there been âaroundâ the expected number of baddies -/+ âa coupleâ of extras nasties even ⌠But if some one here still think itâs somehow warranted to upload videos and what not for the purpose of guiding other players than yours truly through this particular encounter, well you have my blessing doing so too PROVIDED itâs done in a tutorial friendly good manner & tone meaning in a non-patronizing and superior-like lecturing one!
You win. Iâm not going to read all of that. On my way out, allow me to impart some wisdom:
Love it for what it is, not what you want it to be.
I have no response but this one:
Maybe you would be taken more seriously if you werenât such an ass.
Iâm sorry.
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âI winâ ??? When was this here frank discussion ever about âwinningâ anything??? Not the most mature & respectful reply you could have come up with I gather, regardless of your actual age & intellect!
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âAll thatâ??? Ahhh I see could it possible be so that you just happen to be yet another one of those âRedneckâ / âSimpletonâ internet posters who are incapable of curling your head, seriously susceptible to be intoxicated head btw, around something more than say maximum 10 lines post???
lol
As for Words of Wisdom, Well thanx! They are naturally always welcome ⌠even for one as learned and genuinely triple 'Mensa Test passing as I lol
HOWEVER as I implied in an earlier post I can fairly easily make the changes myself to âwhat I want it to beâ. Period! ⌠if not for on a more serious point âexcuse me!â cause I ehmmm thought that major part of the function of this here thread was to make constructive input s& feed-backs based on experiences from playing said mod for the noble purpose of making itâs developers more aware on how to improve and basically make this particular mod better for ALL types & levels of players seeking predominantly that extra monster challenge which I believe Jiaco originated in his original mod way back??? Hmmm apparently I was wrong on that one (the threadâs major purpose)⌠so SORRY! My bad.
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PS. Mr. Menstruation, my post about making a video was not directed specifically at you. Though flipping your top and going âJasonâ was an entertaining reaction.
LOL! Aye Iâm in fact renowned (elsewhere both on and off the Net) for being a real certified Bad A@@ alright ⌠but personally you have seen nothing yet dear Alien! But anyhow please just carry on with your macho sounding but quite unmistakably infantile and pitiful NON-sarcastic & BASELESS insults (and accompanying images! wow!) if it if makes you feel big, important or even aroused in any way ⌠all btw from the as always super safe comfort of your armchair!
I believe someone was trolled once upon, thus becoming overly defensive to interwebs banter. Grind that axe.
I was not flipping my top for REAL dear (the " " + chosen emoticons affixed and all) ⌠Anyway I have much better things to do on a Saturday than continue to argue this minuscule subject over and over ⌠so Peace & Love (for now at least :D) âfriendoâ ⌠and may a Falcons win make your awesome Redneck-like :rolleyes: Saturday complete! lol
And on that note Iâm out for good for this here day (So to the rest of you out there just let them creative personal insults commence OK? lol)
Thank you for your feedback, sir. No more will be required of you as your superior intellect appears to be hindering your ability to socialize and interact with us common folk.
(This has to be some kind of elaborate troll. Is that you Davood?)
You guys done?
I will clean this thread soon. So read it once more if you are enjoying this.
Awe, we just having fun.
take a chillpillâŚ
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