Since Savagery is a purely single-target attack, it should be far superior to Cadence and Fire Strike in terms of DPS. In its current state it is not worth investing in. Even Primal Strike has comparable DPS against a single target…
It’s supposed to be far superior to Fire Strike and Cadence because it’s single target focused? Since when? Cadence is the one that is single target focused.
Primal Strike has comparable DPS? What? Primal Strike wishes it had the same DPS as Savagery. It has become a running joke that Primal Strike is one of the worst skills in the game.
Savagery is completely fine in its current state. It’s actually in its current state because it used to be far stronger, with Ultos builds being OP as hell.
I’m starting to notice your username is extremely misleading.
I mean, to be fair, Savagery is literally the only one of those skills that has not AoE whatsoever. He’s not wrong in that assessment.
Thankfully, we have things like the Upheaval skill and various devotion procs to patch that up. Savagery is fine as is.
Savagery is “fine” only with full Ultos set. Otherwise it’s garbo.
Savagery is a pretty damn strong auto-attack skill. Primal Strike is insanely strong as well, after latest patch. I am getting crits above 100k (on 2-3 enemies at once) with my druid, and its cooldown is 2,4-2,6 seconds with Ultos gear. And it leaves big dots on enemies too.
Savagery is pretty great with the Bloodrager set. It’s not all about Lightning damage. 
Savagery is fucking awesome. There, I said it. That you don´t know how to build around it, doesn´t make it shit. :rolleyes:
Savagery opens Tenacity of the Boar and Storm Touched. Nice skills.
Don´t know what is wrong with it…
High single target DPS, works well with WPS, 8% physical resistance, OA/DA, IAS, health regen, you can’t ask for more. Only thing it lacks is AoE which can be easily complemented with devotion procs.
If Savagery is “garbo” without Ultos set then I don’t know what to call Primal Strike with random gear.
When it comes to AOE skills are more or less balanced by their energy costs. Cadence, melee Fire Strike and Savagery have little or no aoe, so their energy cost is low. Primal Strike has better AOE so energy cost is something to consider.
I don’t know how’s Primal Strike right now at the higher end, it indeed was rather bad but IIRC received a few buffs. Primal Strike is not a true auto-attack replacer so Feral Hunger and Upheaval don’t work with it, which is also something to consider. Pretty much why Ultos builds use Savagery for autoattack, not PS.
You are forgetting this; Savagery builds tend to go lightning route ( and lightning damage is mainly focused on aoe) you happen to close the gap between single and aoe damage. Because savagery will be strong in single and the lightning will support aoe clearing. I think this is why it’s aoe support is not very huge
Oh yeah, the awesome Bloodrager set which becomes even better by swapping Savagery with Cadence.
But I know how to build around it, just get a full Ultos set and then you’ll have an acceptable skill to spam 
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Actually lightnings is one of the weakest damage types. All except aether and vitality can beat it, so maybe lightning part of Savagery really need a buff.
All but 2 damage types can beat it? That makes no sense.
And how is lighning weak? 1000 lighning damage is as good as 1000 fire damage, non?
Please elaborate.
Seriously though has PS been changed in any way this expansion? Since it’s the worst skill in the game meaning there doesn’t exist much reason to pick it
- 2h Melee? Go with Ultos Savagery
- 2h Ranged? With BiS you can go with Savagery (thought most Lightning Weapons suck at the moment)
- Vortex of Souls/Will of Fate try to make it half decent but the single target sucks to the point that it’s not worth it. Lets not forget that Brute Force is meant for melee weapons so ranged PS has no benefit from it and you’d be missing out on any potential WPS
On the topic, Savagery could use a buff at lower levels since it does require some decent gear to be able to perform to the level of FS or Cadence
Hell to the no. I have to post another video of my Ultos Druid I guess. It has weakest dot among elemental damages (still better than vitality decay tho) because of the lack of gear support. But direct lightning damage is among the hard hitters. Take Ultos druid/elementalist or Stunjack Elementalist (which is completely bonkers with correct gear).
About Primal Strike, show me another nuke that crits > 100k on an area of monsters, has chain ligtning that affects 5 targets and leaves massive dots, all that with a cooldown of 2,4 seconds (gets buffed by Savagery too)?
When people say Primal Strike is weak, i’m pretty sure they’re referring to using it with it’s transmuter as a main attacking skill.
Taking both Primal Strike and Savagery at decent skill levels would leave you pretty point starved or force you to give up other skills so it’s not something that’s advised to do.
Post it, please. I still haven’t seen any Ultos build that can drop Fabius before his Barrier procs. Maybe for Stunjacker this possible, but I’m not sure. PS is for mobs cleaning, not for serious tasks. (I’m talking about campaign, not Crucible)
Here it is, my old one, perfected build a bit since then, roughly ~32 seconds. Just fired up this char (haven’t played him for a long time) and casually killed Fabius for ~36 seconds despite pressing all the wrong buttons.
Ligtning damage is “4100-10100” with Savagery buff btw.