“The Final Seal” mentions “The ancients were determined in their construction of this final chamber.” It would be weird to me that "the ancients " were just “30 years ago”. Maybe I just missed it ^^ where does this 30 years ago come from?
Could be a misinterpreted phrase; as ‘ancients’ could refer to the Chthonic primordial forces behind the Necropolis construction and not the humans actually building it.
If you read through the 3rd Necropolis note, the son of the Architect says it took 20 years (not 30) to complete the construction, then he was sent off abruptly by the Imperium. We know these were all recent events because when you arrive at the Necropolis, the summoning of Loghorrean has only just happened.
I think the reference to the ancient arcanists is from when the Loghorrean was originally sealed away, meaning his “chamber” was already buried there.
Basically, the entire construction of the Necropolis was a front to dig deep enough to uncover Log’s summoning chamber again.
Edit: whelp, I was wrong
The Necropolis is older than the fall of Arkovia.
It took 20 years to build.
So just to clarify, both the surface portion of the Necropolis and the buried area where Log’s chamber is sealed away were all constructed at the same time?
Thanks for the clarification
Apparently the Necropolis was constructed with greater care and better materials than the Arkovian cities were.
Yes, the Necropolis was constructed with the intent to bury the fallen in the war, and to disguise what lies beneath.
One was maintained, the other…not so much.
Well I assumed like you did that at least the upper area was relatively recent because of its appearance and then the underground parts were much much older.
Lazy Arkovian undead, can’t even keep their own home neat
You mean meat
This is a fascinating revelation as I was always under the impression that Arkovia had long since fallen by the time of the Erulan empire. Yet, the Commission of the Necropolis lore notes explicitly mention it being an Erulan project.
I guess the question this creates for me is, “what was Arkovia to Erulan during the era of their coexistence?” Did Erulan’s border end where Arkovia’s began, making them rival powers to one another? Were Erulan settlements such as Burrwitch and Malmouth, on the far side of the lake, founded after the fall of Arkovia (who we know had a presence in Ugdenbog)?
i think that was everyone’s impression. As if the Erulan empire was built of the leftovers of Arkovia. Their territories overlap too much, and there is literally zero mention of them interacting, let alone go to war, which seemes inevitable considering the type of civilzation both are.
The only thing this would TRULLY explain would be the discrepancy in gods’s absence. If both empires coexisted, all gods coulded gone silent at the same time, but creates a whole host of new questions, like:
How did the Erulan got into a war SO NORTH of the Arkovian territory? Unless the Arkovian empire was so small that just controled Arkovia and it’s sorroundings.
Why the Arkovians didn’t participate in the War? I don’t mean allies, but summoning Loghy shoulded been bad news, no matter how tense the relationship woulded been.
How come that the Erulans didn’t conquer Arkovia? The Grim Dawn happens exactly at the start of the game, yet Arkovia has been abandoned for a few decades AT LEAST. Having a literal army of arcanist and inquisitors and demolicionist for good measure walking around woulded been more than enough to cleanse the place and star over, moreover, the empire had affairs with the Death’s Order before, it’s not like they never heard of necros. Not only that, but Fort Ikon is ANCIENT (back from the war in the north), and the shortest supply route went from homestead right over Arkovian territory, meaning they allways took a huge detour, or had good relationship with them and used their routes, so good in fact, that they kept respecting their territory once gone.
On top of that, the crypt right between burrwich and Devil’s crossing is in the middle of pure Erulan territory. So, the question is, what was the original extention of the Erulan and Arkovian empires, and how long ago Arkovia fell. If it was “too long ago”, Arkovia left unconquered makes no sense, yet if it wasn’t so long ago, The Rowhari wouldn’t be a thing, they would be barely just starting, like Barrowholm.
I just read a note that might confirm your suspicions, and should probably be retconed. In the Arkovian Foothils there is a note “Dust Covered Journal”, by Phegan of Burrwitch, and the last sentence reads: “I allways questioned whether the history of Erulan would stand the test of time as Arkovia had before us”. So, yeah, i think Arkovia was long gone by the time of Erulan. That would make much more sense than being contemporaries. There are few inconsistencies, but far less than if both coexisted.
Great find, thanks! I was sure I had read something to that effect and that it wasn’t always just an assumption on my part. Hopefully this can be properly explained in FoA if there is indeed a retcon that has arisen with the expanded lore of the Kurn, etc.