SPOILER ALERT: Lore Discussion

I get it but how do we know Korvaak will even get a constellation?

Do you have any clue regarding the damage dealt by both the skills?

There was a screenshot of a constellation’s title called “Korvaak, the Eldritch Sun” or something very similar

Here’s the post i made, which contains the constellation description for Korvaak.

Thank you

Did they show the damage type of the proc on Yugol?

Yeah it;s all there. Acid/cold Spawns 6 max every 0.8 secs. Idk if they are AoE pools like fetid pool or evil elemental seekers

Try here

My internet is bad mate that’s why I thought a screen of the skills would help.

If you look at the constellations images from Dying God and Wretch. It appears you see tentacles appearing, would that be a coincidence?

Here’s my take on the Yugol.

HE IS NOT IMPORTANT IN ANY WAY.

Yugol is just trying to eat everyone, it’s pretty straightforward. No devious machinations at work here. Unless we get a nihilistic cult that wants to summon him this guy will never be relevant to the actual plot.

Now, on to the actual relevant beings

Korvaak, The Eldritch Sun -

> The only known primordial belonging to the Eldritch Realm so far. Far more powerful than The Three’s combined strength. He is strong to the point that the The Three have retreated into their pocket dimension.
> Has a beef with Chthon
> Impersonates Empyrion but so far isn’t known to impersonate as anyone else. So probably has some sort of connection to Empyrion and possibly could be Empyrion himself
> In the War of the Gods, one entity harnessed Chaos itself so most likely Korvaak isn’t that entity.

Circle of Five
> Brains behind the aetherial invasion
> Their position within the aetherial hierarchy is questionable as they are afraid that their plans might get thwarted should the word get out and other aetherial allies have commented upon how all this carnage will be stopped at once should the other aetherials in the aether-hold be made aware of the situation
> Are afraid of certain beings due to which they feel the need to hasten their plans. The nature of these beings is unknown so far.
> Only named member is Adjunct Orin Vostra, Fourth of the Circle of Five.

Unnamed Primordial now referred to as Chthon
> Harmless entity who just wants his blood back
> Ulto Trieg appears to be at the top of the cult’s heirarchy. He has considerable power as he is able to call forth entities from the Void’s Edge

So we have 3 entities so far - Chthon, Korvaak and the Circle. There could be a fourth one as one being harnessed the power of chaos during the Great War. That being could very well be Ulzuin himself.

To me Yugol is pretty irrelevant to the plot. He has a cool description, i’ll give him that

I am starting to think Udo Kier, erm… Ulto Trieg does not really exist, I mean given all that’s happened, you’d think the head honcho of the cult would have showed up already. :slight_smile:

Btw, anyone watching the new DuckTales? I could not help but think at this scene in the intro that “Oh, I guess Scrooge explored the Ugdenbog” :smiley:

I’m trying to understand the lore of GD, so I started to imagine what would be the whole timeline.

  1. The Void - Nothing existed yet.
  2. Ch’thon was birthed from the Void, and Ch’thon gave birth to the first Gods - the Eldritch/Primordial Gods, Korvaak, Empyrion, and maybe other gods.
  3. The Betrayal - the Primordial Gods betrayed Ch’thon, and created the mortal planes (and maybe Beronath at the same time; and they also discovered Yugol).
  4. The New Gods - Humanity (and maybe other mortals in all mortal planes) started to ascend and/or “create” their own gods, or maybe new gods just started to exist. For Cairn, that would mean Ulzuin, Ulzuin’s lover, Menhir, Ulgrim, Oleron, etc… The Arkovian Gods were maybe not even real.
  5. War of the Gods - the Primordial Gods started to grow jealous of each other, and this jealousy led to a conflict between two groups of gods. They used their servants, Aetherials, and created titans, such as Mogdrogen, as warriors in this war. The war stopped when one side tried to harness the power of the void for victory. The following cataclysm led to the scattering of many gods to the far reaches of creation, maybe leading some of those gods to become “Forgotten”. Once again, betrayal seemed to occur: I suspect Korvaak and Ulzuin were betrayed during this war. The Aetherials were stripped of their physical forms and banished as a punishment for their participation in this war.
  6. The Three - Dreeg, Solael and Bysmiel went to the Eldritch realm and ascended to godhood. Maybe because of the War of the Gods, the Eldritch realm seemed to be empty of other gods.
  7. The Grim Dawn - For revenge over the gods and the void minions, Aetherials started to invade the mortal planes, and Cairn.
  8. Korvaak’s Return - Thanks to Kymon, Korvaak is awaken, which causes the Three to start hiding in pocket dimensions.

You left out the important point that someone (Ulzuin?) tried to harness the Void during the god war, and it devastated the universe, killed some gods, and stripped the Aetherials of their bodies and banished them to the Aetherhold.

From a conversation with Anasteria:

We were the servants of the primordial gods, but when our makers grew jealous of one another, we became soldiers in a cataclysmic war.

Countless creations were eradicated by the ensuing conflict, countless millennia of our work erased in a flicker of godly anger. But none of that compared to the day one side chose to harness the darkness of the void in a desperate bid for victory.

The results were catastrophic and our masters were cut down or scattered to the far reaches of creation. And we, the most loyal servants, were banished to the Aether for the simple crime of serving without question.

There, stripped of our physical forms, we were forced to wander the emptiness of the stars for all eternity, the scars inflicted upon us by the void’s minions still burning deep.

That is until we encountered humans…

Thank you both, I knew I was missing something! I’m gonna update my timeline!

Edit: So actually, the war was between Primordial Gods. Maybe the one who lost, or were scattered, are the Forgotten ones.

Who’s Ulto Trieg again?

Isn’t the forgotten god Korvaak? Like that “Shrine of the Forgotten God” found near Gryver Mill in ACTIII is dedicated to Korvaak, and now being taken care of by Kymon.

We see his name at the end of cult of Ch’thon missives to his subordinates, so he must be the human head honcho in charge of them.
I do wonder though just how intelligent the various Ch’thonic fiends are? I mean they can work with the human cultists instead of being chaotic and attacking everything left and right after being summoned. But I do wonder if they can talk? And why aren’t they leading the cult, since it seems they can exist indefinitely in our dimension after being summoned.
Also, it seems same as with D&D’s devils and demons, killing them on Cairn just banishes them back to the Void (even though their corpse remains), since we have seen this was the case with the Loghorrean. Killing them in the Void - their home plane - destroys them for good, though.

Isn’t the forgotten god Korvaak? Like that “Shrine of the Forgotten God” found near Gryver Mill in ACTIII is dedicated to Korvaak, and now being taken care of by Kymon.

Yes, he is. But thanks to the new constellations, we now know there are other forgotten gods, some of them being Korvaak’s creations or underlings.

Who’s Ulto Trieg again?

He’s the culstist Grand Priest (Note, note, note).

[QUOTE]
Isn’t the forgotten god Korvaak? Like that “Shrine of the Forgotten God” found near Gryver Mill in ACTIII is dedicated to Korvaak, and now being taken care of by Kymon.

Yes, he is. But thanks to the new constellations, we now know there are other forgotten gods, some of them being Korvaak’s creations or underlings.[/QUOTE]
Ulzaad? He’s a titan, so I’m not sure we can consider him one of the forgotten gods.

They are still gods, Mogdrogen is referred to as a god, too. Most pantheons had greater and lesser gods, I feel like Korvaak was the head of this forgotten pantheon, like Zeus or Wotan/Odin.

A Titan? We’re in the wrong game. :wink:

joking :smiley:

Well, when Zantai revealed the new constellations, including Ulzaad’s, he said:

Today, we will look at their lessers, their servants

Btw, the expansion will have 9 new constellations. The “lesser ones” are the Lotus, Mantis, Nighttalon, Scarab, Hyrian and Ulzaad. Among the missing three, we know of two of them, Azrakaa and Yugol. I suppose we’re missing Korvaak’s constellation. I’m starting to wonder if we thus already know the names of all forgotten gods that will play a role in the expansion.

Yes, servants, same way as how Ares has sons (Phobos, Deimos) and a daughter (Eris) who serve him, but they are still gods. Just lesser gods, but compared to a mortal, just as powerful. I mean just how hard is it to beat just an avatar of Mogdrogen? Imagine the power the real one has, considering he can manifest multiples of those without much effort.