Well, it looked like a ban he was willingly asking for, considering his sour and overdramatic post about being done with the game.
For example to close all the Forum! 
P.S: Itās a joke and nothing else.
Wasnāt banned for that.
This! As someone who play the endgame. And endgame builds. I feel this too.
Yeah i use the guides to see fast what are good items to use as extra for a set and learn stuff.
I thx for the guides and work.
But i dont care about the min max stuff. And dont care about the nerf.
Imo all this whining is what is it is. Pur whining. Like a child who start crying if something happen that it dont like. And imo a lot of stuff here is made up. āWhole teams quitting the gameā? Lol? Whole teams? Cause there faceroll build got a 10%dmg nerf or something?
And the ābuild is nerfed. Unplayableā is also made up. Imo.
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Oh, well. My point stands still: if youāre not enjoying something you dedicate a lot of time to anymore you should just leave it.
I know. 
My point about mods and/or backpatching is highly relevant too. If you dislike balance in the latest patch you simply donāt have to play it. Demanding to reinstate unreasonably OP builds into the game does not make sense at all when you can still play them in their OP state if you so desire.
My main beef is mob powercreep two latest patches.
OP builds should be nerfed, no doubt, but monster strength increased amazingly recently. Should be toned down, really.
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Can you give me some examples please?
I searched for Fabius in Campaign, didnĀ“t see much difference, but he is a bad example because of my build. Valdaran is indeed no pushover anymore (SR) and Zantarin I didnĀ“t see any difference.
Father Kymon can oneshot you with his jump.
Queen triggering her aura every 1-2 seconds.
Grava and his enormous Fumble.
Fabius and his 600 DA shred. Combine with Kymon for leisure.
Maiden and her 500 Armor shred. With recent nerfs combine her with Fabius and/or Kymon too.
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I thought, only āoldā enemies were buffed? 
Well my main gripe about such topic like this is where the actual statistics are drawn from? I know and understand that for the sake of an Argument, people enjoy to generalize based on themself and their surroundings and infact, i do it myself as well. Sometimes it ācanā be an good indicator for an different perspective in terms of an discussion, sure, but itās not neccessary representative as a whole. Thatās why iām surprised to read some folks with their āArgumentsā about āmajority people love stuff being opā¦ so donāt nerf otherwise you drive the people awayā, and than geniunly believe that this represents the actual majority of the (core) playerbase, while they donāt have any actually ārealā statistics but moreover make an assumption based on their own experience.
If we go Factual about this whole Topic, if you looked Reddit, Discord, Steam-Forum and other Social Networks, than Iād say from what iāve seen so far and gathered, that this whole #deadbuilds and ānerf criticismā might be vocal, but from a minority. So atleast from that aspect / viewpoint / standpoint, there are People which complain loud about it, but compared with the population of said social networks itās pretty minority which are geniunly bothered about this whole balancing situations. Most of them either donāt care, or are happy with it. Than again(and itās pointed out many times again) the population from said Social Networks are compared to how many sold copies rather a minority already, so itās hard to generalize that argument either. So the only thing which is left for us āUserā is to argue with our own opinions and viewpoint, and maybe base about some stuff with our experience of our surroundings.
For actual real statistics, iād say the only party which might know more than we doā¦ is (yes you guessed it) the developersā¦
So from my perspective this whole āBut iāve 30-40 of people in our secret discordā doesnāt do any justice, because 30-40 people compared to the sheer amount of people who own the game is like absolute nothing. And iād argue in such things like closed / private Discords majority (and yeah itās pretty bold to try to draw an factual statement hereā¦ but iād say atleast this is one of the arguments which might be more true if you look at history) of people look out for communitys which share an similiar mentality. So it doesnāt surprise me if there is a group of players which have together an discord where they are unhappy about nerfing and stuff.
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About this whole argument of āop games without balancing are successfull for offer being opā is like to draw a strawman here, because againā¦ there isnāt an factual statistics about what many of people loved about these games, and what they might not like. The majority of people who love BG, love it for what it was overall, but in all honesty hate the OP stuff, or didnāt even encounter it, etc. We wanāt know for sure, because there will never be an poll with all votes of everyone who ever played BGā¦ so to draw statistics is pretty impossible.
Than again from my viewpoint out, as someone which prefer most games to be ābalancedā as possible, iād argue that an cRPG is an different stance than a ARPG anywayā¦ because iād argue the core appeal of an cRPG is itās narrative and campaign. For an ARPG balancing around classes, builds and such is more vital due in ARPGs you will spent most of your time building different kinds of builds, while you might go few playthrough(if even) for itās narrative / dialoges etc etc.
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I think the damage was adjusted across the board. Nevertheless, itās pretty noticable, how much harder SR and Crucible becameā¦
So nerfing OP builds is fine, buf if you also start buffing mobs like that, no wonder the game becomes a bitā¦ twisted.
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Since you mentioned whiningā¦
Sorry for the stupid old ass meme, I couldnāt resist 
Well Iām a bit torn on the matter.
On the one hand I donāt care much about nerfs. In 3 years of playing GD I had one (1) dead build (due to massive changes when AoM dropped).
I usually stay away from forum builds, especially the ones with crazy numbers and letters in the headline. Making my own pretty decent builds and seeing them buffed later on is a much more enjoyable experience for me 
On the other hand, I can understand the hardcore fans who feel emotional when their favorite thing is getting attacked (not saying a nerf is an attack, but it seems like some people feel that way). But those passionate people are also the lifeforce behind a game like GD. Imagine if no one would post and discuss all those crazy builds, the game would be dead already.
All I can say to those people is please donāt take it too seriously. Even if itās your favorite game ever, itās still just a game.
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Careful, only my experience. 
I havenĀ“t seen much difference in playing SR 70/71. I had no MQ so far, otherwise it was pretty ānormalā, just a bit more difficult due to nerfs to Bleeding.
Well, when Grimtools is up again, perhaps damage could be compared. There is the offline-Version (1.1.3.1 iirc) and then 1.1.4.1 online.
While I have seen a difficulty spike in the Crucible, SR was more or less the same for me. The only real āproblemā I had was from Fabius who atleast for me, felt a bit overtuned.
But then again, I havenāt went up against him on 1.1.4.1 and with the spellscorched platings giving Pierce res now, and my builds having a healthy amount of pierce overcap as a result, I donāt think Fabius would be a problem atm. (They were capped at 80% before, so that could have been why I was having trouble)
Making builds and posting them and being min maxed is actually very different. The thing I love the most is creating new builds. Not that much really playing them, but just trying to go in the uncharted territories.
So do I enjoy playing really strong builds? Yes I do. But not playing overpowered builds. When Warlord was ridiculously overpowered was not playing them and was one of the players wanting to nerf them. After that I posted two Warlord builds.
So if something deserves Nerf, nerf it. If something is weak, buff it. But if I felt change was undeserved, I will say my opinion. Is this gonna be whining? I hope not and certainly if someone tells me that, I can say he is overreacting.
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Giving feedback is always good. Complaining about Crucible times, menacing to quit or implying the community is deadening because of nerfs doesnāt help much imo.
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Oh wow would you please share (in private of course) those secret OP builds that iām sure no one ever even thought about ever anywhere ever so i could play me some really OP builds that the evil devs canāt nerf cuz they donāt know them pretty please?!!4
PM ME!!4
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How do you know about a build if it is secret? 