Three things you don’t love about 1.1.6.0

[Jabarto]

Removal of DA on Barb pants.

That needed to happen, those pants were best-in-slot for basically every physical build in the game.

As far as my thoughts go:

1. Every nerve in my body is screaming at me for even thinking of protesting a buff to Bane of the Winter King, but that item was already a staple for the builds that used it. It doesn’t really need that cooldown reduction (physical resist on the granted skill owns though, it really wasn’t worth using before).

2. Lowering the distance on rush runes: why? Don’t most tryhards use the teleport one anyway?

3. Increasing the death penalty in SR. Yeah I know there was a thread for this already but I will never wrap my mind around why people want punitive death penalties.

[hammyhamster1]

Lowering the distance on rush runes: why? Don’t most tryhards use the teleport one anyway?

Amatok is basically Bis where the damage type fits (conversions, etc.) It’s better than the class skills if you don’t have substancial cdr.

[tqFan]

Amatok together with Fallen Kings and Violent Delights.

[mad_lee]

Every nerve in my body is screaming at me for even thinking of protesting a buff to Bane of the Winter King, but that item was already a staple for the builds that used it. It doesn’t really need that cooldown reduction (physical resist on the granted skill owns though, it really wasn’t worth using before).

+10% physical resist and + 8% CDR to Bane of the Winter King are completely ridiculous buffs. Sword was already pretty strong. Now it’s just broken op.

[Xervous]

Lack of nerfs to ulo crucible buff
this thread
the usual popcorn posts in patchnotes

[Garfunkel]

3 - Strange retal nerfs. What is the purpose of nerfing the only and best pants for retal and chopping a piece of lightning retal? No person sane enough will take Dawnguard for 4-5 pieces as only 3 pieces fit perfectly with Dawnbreaker’s Set. And lightning retal warders also have never broken sth.

^This.

2. Make the aura from Cryptstalker not 5m but at least 8+m please. Very bad for summoner to be in the middle of the fight just to apply RR to monsters. Or change the way RR is applied altogether - in a kinda more summoner-friendly manner.

[thejabrixone]

+10% physical resist and + 8% CDR to Bane of the Winter King are completely ridiculous buffs. Sword was already pretty strong. Now it’s just broken op.

My god, just realized that they also add +10%phys res. This is crazy.

Honestly, that 2 buff need to go. It doesn’t make any sense.

[Norzan]

My god, just realized that they also add +10%phys res. This is crazy.

It wasn’t added, it replaced the 20% armor (i forget the exact number) it had before

And until you show proof that it’s broken in any way, this “lel itz broken” is not gonna make the devs change anything. Show builds with this item actually overperforming or else nothing happens.

If this is just another secret OP build that people love to hide, it doesn’t exist until you show it.

[thejabrixone]

It wasn’t added, it replaced the 20% armor i believe.

Oh ic, then it’s quite comparable, maybe. Still, I think 10% phys res is marginally better than 20% armor. And I even think that armor should be Nerf if it still exist.

And until you show proof that it’s broken in any way, this “lel itz broken” is not gonna make the devs change anything. Show builds with this item actually overperforming or else nothing happens.

Nah, I can just see from comparing this weapon to soulrend or any other 2H weapon. Bane of the winter King towering all of other 2H weapon in existence.

I am not kind enough to spend my time proving the obvious.

[Norzan]

Nah, I can just see from comparing this weapon to soulrend or any other 2H weapon. Bane of the winter King towering all of other 2H weapon in existence.

That’s a personal opinion and not actual evidence. And i completely disagree, i find several 2H weapons to be better.

Also, Soulrend and Winter King do different things. 8% CDR is not gonna beat 19% from Soulrend, meaning Soulrend is the best choice for 2H Cold CDR builds.

I am not kind enough to spend my time proving the obvious.

Then nothing happens.

[Ceno]

I am not kind enough to spend my time proving the obvious.

[xOMOCHIx]

Chillwisper Reaper has been similarly weakened in this regard. Consider making up for them.

[x1x1x1x2]

I am not kind enough to spend my time proving the obvious.

Don’t worry. I’ve seen a new winter king build on the chat recently and people in there don’t hide builds. If it’s successful then we’ll see it in a few days.

[Maya]

Thing Fwuffy doesn’t love:

The Nerf to Boobie MindWeaver

Gif back dmg to Birbs,

To Balance it out, Thing Fwuffy loves:

Winter King buffs

Might make WK Pet builds finally viable.

[mad_lee]

That’s a personal opinion and not actual evidence. And i completely disagree, i find several 2H weapons to be better.

Also, Soulrend and Winter King do different things. 8% CDR is not gonna beat 19% from Soulrend, meaning Soulrend is the best choice for 2H Cold CDR builds.

Who to trust on this, a top builder who made dozens of builds and actually tested tonns of stuff and compared it head-to-head or Norzan, hmmm?

[gregory_portman]

Who is this so called ‘top builder’?

[mad_lee]

Who is this so called ‘top builder’?

The argument is between @thejabrixone and @Norzan so take a guess

[gregory_portman]

Oh, ok, I thought you were taking about yourself

[mad_lee]

Oh no, I haven’t made enough top builds to be called “top_builder”, no-no-no

[gregory_portman]

Back to topic I think Norzan statemens are much more balanced than any other active players on the forum. I really miss Nine here. He was the guy I trusted 100% on his opinions about GD builds.