While I wholly concur with the rest of your post, untransmuted PS is perfectly viable and quite strong at the moment…
Ceno’s List of Why:
Whisperer of Secrets (Bleeding Blade Arc/CoS helmet uniformly outclassed by Bloodrager)
Mythical Wyrmbone Mask. While @RektbyProtoss and I agree that untransmuted Stun Jacks needs a bit more oomph, this is the only item presently trying to accomplish that task and it competes with Light’s Defender. Being so lonely in nature, it itself does not make untransmuted Stun Jacks strong enough to warrant not taking the overwhelmingly-superior LD Helmet.
Mythical Fateweaver’s Mantle. +Static Strike and a proc requiring a Caster Off-hand? Come on, man… (also a proc that gives you 50% more Pierce Resist than anyone could ever need…)
Venomtongue Mantle. The conversion does not really fit any of the supported skills; there’s either no good sources of Chaos to lead to those skills, or what sources of Chaos do exist are for skills that would take this item for Poison, of which Chaos cannot contribute anyways.
Gildor’s Guard…I think. With no base retal and poor uptime on the proc (60% on an on-block proc? That’s an oof, bud), I can’t really envision a use-case for this item.
Heart of Yugol. Truth be told I’ve tried a few Vitality builds with this but they never feel that great and the big highlight of the buff that the chestpiece offers - being some % ADCTH - is hard to make use of with the offered skill selection. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are builds that use this item, because it seems usable, but I’ve never enjoyed any that I’ve tried putting together.
Vestments of Severed Faith. This item would be a lot more impressive if Oathkeeper had Chaos RR. Hint hint.
More or less any of the non-+All Skills belts. But what else is new there?
Gallows devotion. --> I’ll repeat that it is still not worth the points (as I mentioned in the last thread for improvement). And it needs something better to distinguish it from the other 4 4/5 point T1 blues. I thought stun resist was in theme with hangman. Or something to pets could be distinguishing.
But ultimately …meh. I suppose it doesn’t matter as there are 3 better alternatives always available. I’ll drop this dead horse after this. shrug It’s not as if I really want to use it, rather I am simply trying to improve the Devotion chart diversity.
I second Severed Faith being an actual great item. It’s also great for chaos AAR, even it doesn’t give bonuses to it. I’d say it’s the chaos equivalent of Fateweaver’s Rainment, a generic item that supports a few damage types.
I agree. Especially now that Korvan Plating was updated to have the same kind of conversion, and +6 skills to the Drain Essence line. To make it feel better and veer away from overlapping on casting/Drain Essence, Heart of Yugol could use bonuses to skills that weapon-based vitality builds would use.
There are currently two legendary medals with any Cadence bonuses at all, and both have glaring issues with resists and damage, as well as not suiting the main Cadence damage types, pierce and physical.
Badge of Mastery: requires you to get lucky with crafting, has paltry % damage and lacking resists. The main Cadence builds also have no trouble with getting Cadence to 26/16.
Mythical Mark of the Dreadblade: can be finagled as a physical medal, but has even worse resist issues. Even with +4% max res, 20% fire resistance and 20% vit is not worth giving up a medal slot for; it’s especially bad for physical Cadence, which tends to end up with stupidly high vit overcaps.
This leaves the Rylok Crest, which actually has good skill point bonuses and can get great resists, but it’s an MI, so good luck getting a good rare one. There are also twoepics with decent cadence bonuses and resists, which makes it all the more baffling why the legendaries are so awful.
I’d suggest taking the Mythical Mark of Kalastor and swapping the forcewave bonus for fighting form or deadly momentum. Forcewave already has a superior option in the Sigil of the Bear King, and this would give a good generalist medal option to Cadence’s main archetype.
Although this is my first post I have been reading these forums nearly from the beginning.
Being a part of a very small community of what I would call meme players (since most of our builds are so unorthodox yet VERY effective) and it appears that we may be on the wind down of GDs development I was nominated to come here and offer some feed back. There may be more but there are 3 things in particular my group wanted to make known:
Corruptian: please don’t touch this item, in fact give better options to convert acid to phys
Other items we classify as meme (examples would be codex of truth for lightning judgment, etc) we, over all would like to see some sort of support weaved in to help boost these types of items. I realize this is very self serving for us but to make this builds work is like having angles singing and the lights of heaven shining on us if you know what I mean.
This brings us to the #1 reason this post was made and that was for Badge of Mastery. We adore this item. However the rng associated in getting a good one along with the cost is better then before but still abysmal.
As a test, one of us used GD stash and spawned materials to make them to roll one that she wanted. 6,517 tries latter she finally rolled a +5 PB. We play SF within our group but we decided to let her keep the item because she was so excited to finally have it.
Perhaps we misinterpreted the devs want to complete a build but in order to complete a lot of our builds…it just wouldn’t be possible.
Is there some way to limit the rng based on the masteries the character has? Decrease the material cost, or something that would enable a method to roll what we are looking for in perhaps 1/4 of the tries? 6k is sad
I never use Outcast Secret since Maw of the Damned is BiS for CT defensively but also - after the OS nerf - offensively. Spellgaze is now BiS for aether PRM. All other arcanist skills are best with full sets. OC from a viable alternative on many aether builds to empower Devastation at the cost of something else became a niche item for non-set Devastation.
It fits perfectly to SR set acid dervish as an alternative to one or even two Miseries. Could use some more ranks to something oathkeeper. Fervor or Path of the Three or Celestial Presence.
Imo this is one of the best weapons in the whole game. So this mod - in the face of all the Chillheart glory - is nothing more but an almost irrelevant nuisance. All it does is making proccing of Revenant a little bit more of a problem. Just removing it would be great for everyone. Not great. Just ok.
I used Warpfire on a Pyran. Should’ve been using Grim Fate all that time. 100% agree.
Should allow dual wielding like Korvaak or Direwolf.
Venomtongue is quite good now with double res. But the Black Death bonus could indeed be changed to something useful on the occultist side.Vulnerability? AotG?
I’d like to throw in Edge of Sanity. It’s pretty much flat outclassed by mythical mindwarp for aether melee.
Honestly I think the real problem here is that mindwarp is too strong- some of the bonuses on it should be moved to other aether melee equipment so different weapons can find purchase in builds. In particular if there were some melee aether rings or a belt that offered phys to aether so you have another way to find convert approaching 100% outside of 2xmindwarp.
Since that would require a lot more work though, I think Edge could use a number of buffs to try and catch up. Arcanist skills to Necromancer to start. Then maybe up the -% resist and increase the flat aether and attack speed to match mindwarp. While non-scepter 1h weapons don’t seem to get non physical base damage, it could also be made to be aether damage base. Then the convert wouldn’t matter quite as much. Might be able to work as a compliment weapon to the heart of marcell MI for a build using fleshwarped strikes and trying to maximize WPS. An independent buff idea is to perhaps convert non-phys (vit and or cold to aether).
I’d also like to +1 for mark of the dreadblade allowing dual wield.
I never use Spellscourge set because Melatonin does the same thing only better. (sleeping pills)
I never use The Pummeler because Warborn Gavel… doesn’t exactly do the same thing but works better on Octavius since The Pummeler nerfs, allowing for overall much better setups (with Spellscourge amulet for example). Mods on the Pummeler were about halved on the warlord nerf hype. Too much.
I would like to use this weapon https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9425 for my 2H Chaos Blade Arc Witchblade, but because it has no attack speed (which is an essential stat for melee characters, especially for two-handers) I have to use https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/13476 instead, not a good choice (lightning conversion, support of Doom Bolt - 1-pointer for Dying God proc, no + Soldier skills). Alternative is Obsidian Cleaver, which is a weaker variant of Juggernaut and supports Forcewave. Just adding % Attack Speed would be very nice and helpful. Thanks.
It fits very well into the SR set + double claw acid witch hunter.
I agree.
Its RR is pretty good, but I wouldn’t mind this getting a buff. I’m using it on a poison retal sentinel, which also could use a small buff dmg wise.
+1, I agree.
Interesting Idea, it definitely needs some change, I’ve not seen any build where it fits so far.
Attack speed would be nice. Oathkeeper got acid RF + smite WPS though, which is the same amount of WPS+default attack replacer a shaman has.
This should be the ranged amarastan crusher imo. We need more 0 CD ABB fun
Agree, the RoS mod is just useless. Maybe it’s supposed to be a penalty for using the weapon?
+1, good ideas.
I, too, love the conversion on this item. It might need a buff of some kind nevertheless. Maybe some cc res?
Misery is for dervish and Mad Queen’s for WH (basically same build).
New suggestions:
Do something with the aetherwarped cleaver from Port Valbury. Currently its a 1h physical axe focusing on zolhan’s. That’s just completely useless, I’ve never seen nor theorycrafted any build where it would fit properly. It says “aetherwarped”, so how about making it e.g. an aether blade arc weapon for Deathknights? Could be good with some +aether damage and 100% phys to aether conversion combined and be combined with Krieg set.
Give Ilgorr from SoT a MI. Ilgorr gets skipped too much and he’s a sad gargantuan cuz of that. Some spiky shoulders or another belt would be neat!
With how great ancient grove and tomb of the heretic are and even port valbury (the former most hated dungeon of GD) being worth to run thx to the the watcher belts, BoC feels very tedious (mostly due to all those clickable obsidian barriers) and unexciting to run. It literally has 0 dungeon specific MI apart from worldeater (and the useless blue version). My suggestion: give the lightning tyrant (last boss) of level 1 of BoC (post skeleton key door) a MI and the purple duplicating guy in level 2 a MI (a dagger would fit nicely here) and/or remove most of the obsidian barriers in BoC.
