V1.1.9.8 Discussion

Lol it is not. The only S&B builds that are competitive on the highest level are Blitz and partly Octavius.

Octavius is a strong set but it doesn’t break the game. Forcewave is a mid-tier skill, Aegis is closer to lower tier, mods for them are so-so. The set can be played with just RF but then it 1) blocks two slots for WPS modifiers 2) lacks AoE to be on the level of consistent clears of the best farmers 3) severely lacks attack speed.

I saw your thread on it. Sub4 75-76 is commendable achievement but it’s the luckiest run for rooms i’ve ever seen and the build also dipped to 5% hp vs some random hero pack. (Speaking of the thread, idk what you mean about Justicar in the first sentence. The strongest Justicar build is Sharzul Commando. Shield Justicar builds are nowhere close. Strongest fire S&B is custom RF Shieldbreaker).

Let’s not call for nerfs because of cherry picked SR runs of breezing through the short rooms and lucky nemesis spawns.

I will test cast-less Octavius soon to come back with more educated opinion. But i dont see it changing much, we’ve played way too many things during top20 testing and nothing Octavuis smelled OP. The last monter phys res buff seemed to enough to tame even Avenger and Guts EoR.

P.S. Me and lee have been toying with best melee builds lately. S&B comes awfully short. DW in general is stronger now, EoR is stronger, phys BA and Avenger are also stronger.

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