What good is Vindictive Flame?

I must be missing something, because most Demo builds I see have a lot of points in Vindictive Flame. I don’t see what’s so good about it. It does retaliation damage and I’d prefer to avoid getting hit. It also adds some health regen and speed, but that doesn’t seem worth spending points in it.

The modifier, Ulzuin’s Wrath, seems pretty good, so I’m sticking one point in VF just for that.

Can someone educate me on the merits of VF?

+% Total Speed

CAst speed for casters, attack speed, run speed, Very good hp regen if you have lots of + skills and invest in it. At higher levels it constantly interrupts lesser mobs,

Gonna be redudant given the posters above, but just the total speed and health regen makes it more than worth it to cap. It’s also quite easy to get it to higher levels due to being supported by a substantial aumont of items.

At higher levels it constantly interrupts lesser mobs

You did 13 mistakes in the word “disintegrates”.

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What he said ^^

Also, it gets boosted a lot by demo gear. e.g. with Ulzuin’s set and related gear you can get VF and UW to 12/16 and 10/12 respectively, with only 1 point in each, adding around 10% damage in total (just from VF alone…UW isn’t calculated in sheet dps). Definitely worth it for 2 points.

Even in builds where you have to put skill points in, it’s often worth getting VF to 11/16. After that the benefit tails off.

It gives to you total speed (attack/cast/run), that is useful 4 every build.
Play melee? +% to attack speed pleasured you increased dps, monster kill speed, chances to proc anything, that has chance to “proc on attack” (indirectly, for sure, more speed - more chances)
Play caster? Same bonuses as in melee, just replace “attack speed” to “cast speed”.

Ok i didn’t get it at first:p

I said interrupts because i was thinking late game. But it’s good for leveling too. I leveled once like that until lvl 20

I also was thinking late game. Did a quick test and have to say I overestimated it’s damage quite a bit. I percieved it as being pretty powerful due to procs.

Didn’t realize it affected ALL speed. The would explain it. Is Ulzuin’s Wrath also a good point dump?

Typical one point wonder.

^Yes, it helps with any on hit on crit procs you have. Keep in mind that in order for Ulzuin wrath to proc, vindictive flame itself needs to hit something. But that is not a problem, you will see it all over the place

Is the cast speed applied to DoTs occurrence rate?

I guess not.

no, but can help indirectly. The quicker you attack or cast(different spels) the faster you apply your DoT. The faster you apply your dot’s the bigger the numbers

Ok, and are DoTs able to proc “on attack” skills/devotions?

yes /10chars

not devotions i think

To clarify his answer — that depends on source of DoT. Devotion procs are bound to skill, if that skill have a DoT (as in it’s his basic damage part), then devotion proc will trigger from that skill DoT only. Will not trigger from any DoTs from other skills/gear you might have. On attack procs will proc off practically everything, except pets, and maybe retaliation.

Thanks for details.
Good to know for a poison build.

Vindictive Flame…well…I got 1 point with it in my Commando /physical forcewave/ and…this is where it starts and ends?

Does it ever go off? when it does, what does it look like? is there animation to it or whatever? and yes, I toggled it this time :wink:

Is there a way to say VF procced?