What's the best Sentinel of the Three build for Sentinels?

https://www.grimtools.com/db/itemsets/148

Last I heard this set has issues but nobody is enthused about going deep into the set.

I am. Please give me your best sentinel of the three builds FOR SENTINELS so I can come to my own conclusions about what I like/dislike about the set.

Thanks! I will give my feedback on builds provided in this thread

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Feedback for Sentinel:

The above stats are with a couple of temporary buffs active and I highrolled the shit out of every single piece of gear. So it’s weirdly low. AND it uses TWO MI’s and still didn’t perform stupendously.

I felt the eldritch shard cooldown is way too high. It feels like a set that’s just weaker than Octavius and Virtue.

Its dmg can get pretty high but only when all your cooldown skills are up, and that makes it about on par with virtue set’s consistent dmg. So that sucks.

The bloody pox stuff on it feels completely wasted. Bloody Pox would need a whole set dedicated to it, maybe 2 set lol, to be a mainable skill I think.

Vire’s might on it is weird as well and it definitely felt like just doing Righteous Fervor and shield throw was a better route.

Basically I’d like the set’s granted shard to have a much shorter cooldown, especially since you have to kite challenge content.

More OA would be nice. More health would be nice. If it got some of these by trading bloody pox skill mods for occultist buff improving skill mods that’d be neato.

Surprisingly, despite all that being said I don’t feel it’s that far off. It mainly feels a bit frustrating to play around the eldritch shard on top of all your other cooldowns, and how some of the set bonuses don’t feel like they’ll see any use.

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Here’s mine - https://www.grimtools.com/calc/DV94G5a2
And a feedback topic on it here - https://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83889

P.S. usually new sets are the ones that get a lot of player’s attention right after release. This set though feels like totally forgotten. There’s been one thread before forum rollback, and it’s grave silence ever since.
Pretty telling imo…

I’m already wrote my feedback on that thread about this set for sentinel’s class, and nothing changes since that times

Thanks, I’ll get to this tonight.

Sorry if this may seems a little bit off-topic, but I just theorycrafted a Vanquisher Acid Sentinel with weapon and shield from Sentinel of the Three set:
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/gZw6l3KV
So this build is definitely a sentinel that uses (part of) sentinel of the three set :rolleyes:

The idea is to use the full Vanquisher set and 22/12 Tectonic Shift to enable chain Vire’s Might (so can play it like x1x1x1x2’s skater templar or my skater fire sentinel), then use that Defender of the Three, Murmur’s Kiss and Path of the Three to fully convert physical & fire of VM to acid, so we get a pure acid/poison Vire’s Might (with Volcanic Stride).

Weapon from the three set is chosen to compensate for the damage we lack due to using Vanquisher. Aegis serves as a second source of poison, and we also have three T3 devotion procs including meteor to boost skating experience :smiley:

Not sure if it works but seems fun enough, will probably test it this weekend.

It’s a bit off topic. I’m trying to ascertain the strength of the full set for sentinels. I’ve got a few builds that mix a few pieces of the set in, but given how thematically cool the set is I’m surprised it didn’t do better in getting community interest.

Okay, then I really don’t understand what this set is designed for:
RF -> lack of attack speed, lack of retal added to attack modifier
Vire’s might -> without big CDR like Vanquisher, its DPS seems lacking as a main skill compared to aegis
Aegis -> no skill support at all in this set

And gears like Bramblevine can utilise those good retaliation by DEE modifier but are not compatible with this set, so as a newbie player I really have no idea how to make use of this full set :frowning:

But pls don’t change the shield, I need it for my skater build :smiley:

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/YZewEwE2 I went with one of the builds above.

Feedback for Sentinel:

The above stats are with a couple of temporary buffs active and I highrolled the shit out of every single piece of gear. So it’s weirdly low. AND it uses TWO MI’s and still didn’t perform stupendously.

I felt the eldritch shard cooldown is way too high. It feels like a set that’s just weaker than Octavius and Virtue.

Its dmg can get pretty high but only when all your cooldown skills are up, and that makes it about on par with virtue set’s consistent dmg. So that sucks.

The bloody pox stuff on it feels completely wasted. Bloody Pox would need a whole set dedicated to it, maybe 2 set lol, to be a mainable skill I think.

Vire’s might on it is weird as well and it definitely felt like just doing Righteous Fervor and shield throw was a better route.

Basically I’d like the set’s granted shard to have a much shorter cooldown, especially since you have to kite challenge content.

More OA would be nice. More health would be nice. If it got some of these by trading bloody pox skill mods for occultist buff improving skill mods that’d be neato.

Surprisingly, despite all that being said I don’t feel it’s that far off. It mainly feels a bit frustrating to play around the eldritch shard on top of all your other cooldowns, and how some of the set bonuses don’t feel like they’ll see any use.

I’d also mention the resists are crap. Unreal rings hide this flaw somewhat. Did you find the build fragile against heavy hitting casters? Also what time does it take for you yo kill someone like Alex or Valdaraan?

What the heck is that blue liquid that takes up two item slots …??

Loyalist Pack Pet. https://store.steampowered.com/app/565610/Grim_Dawn__Steam_Loyalist_Items_Pack/

I haven’t completed this set yet, but is that 2.7k OA really the best it can do? Because that’s poor, even by my not very high standards.

I more or less agree with everything in the OP. This seems like a largely acid retal-based build and even after the nerfs to phys retal this build doesn’t really seem like it offers anything phys retal warlord doesn’t already offer but better.

The only somewhat unique thing sentinel gets over warlord is fevered rage memes, but you’d need WAY more DA than this build gives you to use that successfully.

And isn’t the OP using 3 MIs, not 2? 2 creeping rings and Okaloth’s or Cally’s helm?

So the DA is a little low, and there may be too many abilities flying around, but this is what I mashed together. Capping resistances is a royal pain on a full Armor of the Three build.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/gZw6oO8V

i tried to make a sentinel sentinel acid aegis build but got caught in the acid retal rabbithole :rolleyes:

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/M2glPLgV

it seems the whole set wouldnt work (and from what you guys say is not that great), so i might try a perdition shield again for conversion, but that +1 occ/oath is so gooood

crucible 149 viable!

Alright, after a bit of tinkering, this is what I came up with. It ends up with respectable armor, OA and DA, decent retaliation damage, but scrapes by on resists.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZRo719N

I’m leveling to try this setup:

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/YVWzxW02

Bump out of curiosity.

I am curious if Witchblades/Warlords use the set better. Probably not cause they don’t have have double RR from masteries

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/JVl1yMoZ
This is the best thing I could think of. 14 min 65-66 clear time and you can have deaths if you are not careful. My problems are the low OA without Ascension and Eldritch Shard and the REALLY LOW health (11k for a supposedly tanky char, pls). I had instances where my hp went to 5k with debuffs from Ch’thonics and Abominations (lol). Damage is good when all your procs go off, but without them it’s mediocre. Finally, low attack speed even with procs.

I wonder if replacing RF for a dot version with DEE would be better, but I think Daega’s already does it better.