So Diablo 3’s necro has a release date and price now next week and 15 bucks. Was wondering if the next misadventure we’d get an update on release and price point. I know its apples to oranges comparing the two but there might be a few Grim Dawn players who might go back to D3 if the xpac for grim dawn is far off. Me persoanlly was part of D3 necro beta and it was the same boring game so I’ll keep at my new druid I’m building in Grim Dawn.
Most unlikely…for the simple reason that the expansion hasn’t been released to the testers yet and until Crate are certain that it’s ready for release to the public they won’t give a release date for the simple reason they don’t know what bugs are going to be found in testing. 
Devs said at the end of May there’s still a couple of months’ work to do on the expansion before it can go into testing.
I personally don’t get any enjoyment out of D3 the last year or so, so no matter how long the xpac for GD will take, it’s not magically going to persuade me to play D3.
Personal of course.
D3 is still D3, a very broken game, if you just like a number simulator game with the same build and spells with no variety, where you can infinitely hit harder and harder, but not really, cause you still end up taking the same amount of time to kill harder and harder enemies anyways…
I guess my point is, D3 is in a horrible spot, ive played more D2 and mods of it, than I have D3 at this point since D3’s launch, so yea, I am here, waiting for the Grim Dawn expac, and check on the progress, which has been going slowly for sure, but other than PoE xpac coming out, what good ARPG options do we really have?
Did anyone else expect this topic to be about Sean Waltman (aka former wrestler ‘Xpac’)?
Nope…never heard of him
Me neither. 
I have to say I’m rather disappointed in the lack of info about GD Xpac. I’ll get the Necro pack for D3 not because I am a D3 fanboy but just to try something different. It doesn’t matter how much you like a game, you can only do the same thing over and over so many times before boredom sets in.
How about keeping your player base and community informed on a Xpac that should have been out by now.
Lack of info? How?
Like, when the hell is it coming? Keep in mind, just counting from when they actively started to spoil the information, it’s been a far longer wait than it is for most expansions… Discounting obvious exceptions like the infamous Half Life 3. It also doesn’t help that we’re all aware the testers don’t even have it yet, and depending on what they find, their personal lives compared to the time they spend doing their for-free testing, and various other factors… After the testers get it, it could be anywhere from a month to indefinitely longer, probably no further than five months.
At best, it’s at least another month to the expansion, probably longer. Considering when they started spoiling the actual information, it’s been a while, in most other games it’d either be out by now, or we’d have a date. Neither is the case.
Truthfully, what information we DO have is still more limited than it seems. We have a few item names and the general idea of what they’ll be, but nothing actually reliable, as it can all change at any time without warning. In fact, the same can be said for everything we have. We know that we’re getting Mythical items, new Devotions, new Classes and their general focus,… Oh, and an Illusionist. None of it is actually set in stone, the only things we can rely on getting are the new classes, the rest can be changed at any time if it’s needed for development concerns.
I honestly don’ t see the problem. Also i don’ even remember when i bought GD (i think level cap was 40) but i followed a big part of the EA process. If crate takes a bit more it is usally a good thing, having the xpac 1 or 2 months later or before won’t change my life. Quality is what really matters.
I agree, quality is what matters… Quality in their timing is lacking, is all. I’ve made my issues on this clear elsewhere, and I do believe you’ve commented in some of those threads, so I’m hardly about to repeat them here. Regardless, whether you agree with me or not… You’ve demonstrated enough intelligence that you should very much be able to see the problem, even if you don’t find it to be a problem. If you’re choosing not to do so, that’s not my problem.
Please. Drama much? We have more than enough info. If you choose to ignore it with your “distrust” issues that rests entirely on your shoulders. You act like you are being conspired against and purposefully and deviously being kept in the dark.
Nothing has taken us 5 months or longer to test and considering that most of us are pretty avid when it comes GD (as well as greatly anticipating getting our hands on the expansion) I don’t foresee it taking anywhere near that long. Crate would have to greatly bungle the operation for that to happen and they have never misstepped so widely to date nor do I expect them to.
To make it short : It’s not that we have different opinions. It’s me going all wrong refusing to see that as a problem blinded by mi faith.
Regular updates on development, all here:
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18
Next one’s Monday.
“Should have been out by now” is a very interesting opinion given that you have no basis upon which to make that conclusion. 
You’re getting a bigger and better experience that’s going to be out precisely when it needs to be.
D3 Necro release date is announced a week before it’s coming, but we’re somehow in the wrong for keeping our release quiet. :rolleyes:
I like how, according to you, we both give out too much info but also nothing concrete at the same time. We’ve become a regular Schrödinger’s Dev Update.
No, you are simply taking information as what it isn’t. Crate has been very careful, as any game company should, to specify that any or all of the things we’ve seen may be changed before the expansion releases, or indeed not be in it at all. That’s only sensible, everyone does it… Yet it also means you don’t actually have as much reliable information as you are pretending to. I didn’t say that I don’t believe these items are coming, simply that we don’t actually know for certain. There’s a difference between belief and certainty, and currently we lack certainty.
I didn’t say it would take you five to test. I said five after you GOT IT. Your testing may go quickly, but if a significant issue crops up, it may take significant time attempting multiple fixes. For an obvious example, skill modifiers are probably fairly complicated. If they have some odd bug that crops up under equally odd circumstances… That could take a while to fix, and multiple attempts. You recall that aura bug in multiplayer? If something like that crops up, things could end up taking significantly longer than your usual testing. I didn’t say it was likely, only that it was possible. It wouldn’t take a “bungling” by Crate… Bugs are just how things go. Hopefully they are small, and/or easily fixed… But that isn’t always the case. Again, I doubt it WILL occur… But that doesn’t make it impossible.
I never said you gave out too much info. I said you gave it at a suboptimal time. There’s a difference. I never had or expressed an issue with the information itself, only the TIMING.
A dev’s timing is never early or late, it’s precisely when it’s intended…
Serious apologies to J.R.R. Tolkien for stealing and tweaking his words (Gandalf ;))
This shows just how new you are to Grim Dawn and how little you understand… Every single major update has taken longer than originally suggested, and this is because every single major update has ended up being far larger in content that was ever planned.
If the game was developed the way you WANT/DEMAND it to be then the end of the game would have been just after the rotting croplands… NO content beyond Homestead at all !!!… Instead and because the rest of us are prepared to wait we now have all this additional content beyond Homestead that wouldn’t have existed and the game you are playing would be about half the length that it currently is.
That’s not a good thing. Being consistently unable to properly plan timing in fact sounds pretty awful. The end results seem to be good… But that doesn’t mean the road to those results doesn’t need some SERIOUS work.
And if you recall, I haven’t “wanted/demanded” anything about development… Just the timing of information. Certainly I don’t agree with every choice Crate has made… Most people around here don’t. But I’ve only been particularly adamant about two decisions.