If you have Warborn and Commando, and want to try Beronath Physical with Elemental conversion, you can try :
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54925
There are some variants, they’re fun, all DW variants though
I am interested to try this, but wouldn’t it be an option to discard Behemoth and Dire Bear devotions for ADCTH bonuses from ghoul and Revenant, or is the attack speed too low to benefit from it as much?
Nah it’s not worth it. You don’t really attack yourself. It’s procs and devotions. You’ll survive just fine if you have the gear
Been leveling this up to 70 now. Looking froward to equip all the gears since I just manage to get my hands on all of them :rolleyes: So I got a few questions about the set up:
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From my understanding, dmg type conversion will also affect the DoT version of that dmg type, am I right? So Burn/Frostbun/Electrocute will all be converted to Internal Trauma?
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I noticed you bind Flame Torrent to CoF. CoF does not deal dmg but it can still proc devotion with “On Atk” chance? If I bind this to Cadence, would it be better? Is the chance calculated for every attack or just the 3rd hit which Cadence amplify?
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Yes all elemental Dot will be internal trauma
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CoF “ticks” every second on multiple enemies. This will make Flame torrent go crazy in crucible with all the mobs, offering you superior clearing speed than if you were to bind it to auto attack.
DW fire saboteurs are an exception in the auto attack department due to the way explosive strike works. You are hitting many enemies at once with explosive strike, you are also DW and have dw wps procs. So auto attack proc rate becomes so much more reliable in this particular case.
I’m using this build to run through the xpac on Ultimate. Managed to land myself the mythical blueprints for the ring sets quite early on and now I’m wrecking almost everything in sight.
Any suggestions on what you would spend the extra skill points and devotion points on?
At the moment I’m adding 6 more into Menhir’s Will and 2 more into Overguard. A few more points into Break Morale and Wasting.
For devotion, I grab 3 nodes in Rwowan’s crown, flat elemental turning into physical seems nice and the Elemental Storm also has high proc chance and decent AoE. I also grab Maul skill from Dire Bear and one 5% health node in crossroad.
EDIT: After testing, Rwowan’s Crown is not really worth it when it comes to fighting nemesis… we already have really decent AoE and it did not make much of a difference in fighting random mobs. To fight harder bosses in game, I switched 4 points to Ghouls and its proc. Seems like most of our proc has %wpn dmg so we benefit from ADCTH. As I don’t know what to use the other point for I kept it bound to Dire Bear proc.
Hey! Superfluffy and other Avengers! 
I just regsitered to the Site to tell you how much this Build changed my view on such setups!
I didnt have a Witchblade but i had a Tactician sitting around and thought with some little adjustments it maybe will work and what can i say its AMAZING!
It just walks throu ultimate and wrecks havoc in Crucible.
so just THANK YOU!
PS: if you are intressed i let Grimtools read my Savefile:
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lV7wDobV
I don’t understand the point of running Aura of Censure on a Beronath Reforged setup. Censure has Elemental -RR, but Beronath converts all elemental damage to physical. Censure’s RR does nothing, when you run a Physical damage setup.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to run Menhir or Oleron as exclusive skills on a Physical build?
True the - Elemental RR doesnt apply but it still converts the Fire and Burn Damage to Physical Damage/ Internal Trauma. It also often distrupts enemies Abillities 
Even going by that, it still does not really pan out. Oleron’s Rage has flat IT and %OA. Censure would only have fire/burn that converts to physical/IT.
Unless it’s an elemental build, Oleron’s Rage > Aura of Censure.
Even Menhir Bulwark gives flat physical, and damage absorb and defensive stats.
Totally Legit Statement, just rly Kinda like the aoe(nearly 12m) aoe dotting all over the place. Maybe in Min-Maxing it would go better with Oleron Rage/ or Menhir Bulwark.
I will check on this later, thx for pointing it out. Allthou i doubt that i wanna lose the aoe-clearing and proccing
Glad you like it:) Nothing wrong with Censure if you can survive:) empyr helm is solid for this
Wow! The Superfluff ist self replies (sry bit fan-boyish read lot of your posts)
Yes i rly like it, its actually the first Build that actually amazed me while playing it, i tried stuff like S&B Aether Knight and even if it worked out rly fine it allways felt like kinda mehh since aoe was medicore and the optical effects were like not there :D. This how ever floods your Screen with effects, proccs and total Mayham, love it.
Yes so far i can survive crucible up to 100(wasnt trying to push further since i was hell sleepy yesterday night as i posted here). But it felt a bit to jumpy vs big junks as Benn’Jhar(needed to wait for Overguard to be up to fight him or he would melt me slowly but steady). I gave up on the Auntum Boar, Choose Wendigo Mark, Added Mythical Gladiator’s Distinction and put it on War Cry. This solved the Healing problem and let me face tank way more situations without overguard.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/8NKmPexV
But as SeriousComedy stated Oleron Rage or Menhir Bulkward are also option i wonder what would be clearing better? Sofar i done the Math on Oleron vs Aura of Censure and both addes nearly same amount of damage(Around 4k per Second) to the Build but as we Know Oleron is Flat IT mean it can be applied by % Weapon Skills/Proccs. Question for me now is does :
A) The Flat IT only apply once? aka 4k Damage
B) The Flat IT applies on every Procc with % Weapon Damage but at Sum still only 4k?
C) The Flat IT applies on every Procc wiht % Weapon Damage but counts as on Instance aka it stacks?
IF C is what is Happening its might be rly the better choice to Run Oleron over Aura of Censure since the build doesnt rly lack aoe but stacking up Damage vs Taff targets could prove rly helpful. I hope anyone can help?
EDIT: Okay i just tried my luck again…and… got deleted by IronMaiden + Something i couldnt read at Wave 120 xD. I guess either im fighting this mob wrong or my Defensive is lacking somehow(i mean holy shit 10k hit xD). I will stay away from Aura of Censure and Olerons Rage since they wouldnt help me survive such slaughter and try Menirs Bulkward instead.
Okay Quick update, i changed from Aura of Censure to Menirs Bulkward and managed to beat 150 in Crucible. Some mobs made me sweat a bit but mostly i works rly great now.
I feel the lose on aoe abit but the thoughness is more important
Thx again for this awesome build
If you want to survive beyond 150 better Menhir is the way for sure.
Censure hits every second so it has a high chance of critting and giving crit dot’s per second which is nice with some % duration
This build was made pre AoM so you can try new things now. You can try Reign of Ice and Fire ring that also has DoT. 2nd Ring would be Matriarch, giving you extra RR that stacks. This will increase your damage across the board if used right.
Pre AoM I choseOccult for CoF but beyond 150 Seal + overguard + Menhir Bulwark is a very strong combo (why i posted the Crusader) that suits the passive play style of this build.
Also congrats on gladiator distinction idea. You can try bat on a a more spammy or fire and forget type skill, thus replacing wendigo and also saving some devotion points.
Well i needed Menhir to get to 150 no idea how much time i used thou but it was less than 1 Blessing(HP) lasted from 100 to 150 so not that bad i think.
I thought about Reign of Ice and Fire + Matriach too buuuutttt…i dont know the procc seem to like never hit unlike the Balance Rings Procc. The more RR from Matriach would be great thou, maybe i just need to give it a try.
Well all inspiration came from your Build so every credit belongs to you
Hm the idea with using Bat isnt half bad but… what skill would you use? War Cry is out of Question since it had way to long cd(reason i choose it for wendigo was 100% chance and it lasts longer than the cd). Storm Box maybe? would take another skillpoint thou.
Bat on Tether or WoP.
Reign ring is tricky i know. You need to be more out in the open because the proc appears farther from your toon than balance rings. This means that if there are obstacles near by you might not see it in action. Go out into the open, for example on crucible map don’t stand in the mid area cause the pillars will deny your proc. just takes some getting use to. Meteors would benefit quite well from matriarch I think
Atm its looking like this : https://www.grimtools.com/calc/nZor3KdV
Word or Pain used to activate the Fiend-Procc(took your advise from older post to put it on such skill ot make it werck havoc on the screen ).
With Tether you mean the Storm Box passive?
yeah. with thether active it should proc more i think. could be wrong. Best way to know is to test it. It needs to be cast on large HP targets
Hey! I played around abit with serval setups…i know the RR from Matriach in combo with Elemental Procc on Regin seem’d rly great on paper but i rly rly rly tried i cant make it work. In large crows the Regin Procc hits litterally NOTHING since it hovers around me like 4-6 meter way and never hits the mobs im actually fighting. Other thing is the missing % Weapon Damage comes into huge play for the Damage it self and the Healing via Adcth.
The Matriach ring real works out great for its RR Procc but in Combo i rly cant make it work. I took 20 attempts to beat 100-150 and with the Setup above i felt slower and in 15 of 20 attempts i died on Wave 120-130.
How ever using Bat Devotion on Stormbox with thether proved to be a good source of healing.