[1.1.1.2] Physical Retal Stoneguard Warlord - SR 85++

[Khaop]

Quick update.

So i actually listened what people said a few days ago - in the end i decided your ring was a great match for my build, and also i tried out honor, as well as i decided to throw away the regen as well since leech is enough even for supers after testing. Regen still so strong though, might not have been the best idea to replace that with a lil more whatever.

The ring was just for overcap resistances, i got around 30-60% overcap on all resistances now on my actual char without pots, effectively removing all the biggest dangers even though it doesn’t add anything special as far as sheet epeen goes.

Honor is honestly great, it’s a nice aoe abilility. I can definitely see this one pulling best clear times for general content. I find it ultimately superflous as everything i start attacking just drops, and i am using absolution again, but i cannot deny that it’s great and even for single target it is around 17% increase over time(not mentioning bursts vs groups). However absolution is godmode - particularly when you need that performance. You can keep both though, and swap them any time they don’t add resistances or other essential stats outside the same identical skills.

So yea, it turned out pretty good.

Ravager of minds fight for example took 1½-2 min facetank with no consumerables potions etc. I could literally just see his bar moving rather fast down, then he started leeching when i stopped paying attention to the fight near the end so he lived a little longer from that.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2MpOo4N

Some things are different with my actual gears, i got 1% more block chance and some more oa and different resistances which makes my choices fit, and in game i also use sanctified bone for same reason, but you can’t see that on calc.

PS: retal works just fine for lvling, i was farming ultimate on lvl 100, even beast nemesis facetank, with mostly self-found lvl 60-85 gear coz i was too lazy to make a big rearrangement. Died sometimes, but was fine, only really when i was 20-30 below resistance cap. Kinda slow though with low lvl gear. Personally i transitioned to fervor on 65. Get lots of cheap damage from devotions and so many epics drops it’s crazy and some of them will be for retal.

[bugmenot]

Hey Khaop,

Are you a woman? Cause you’re definately an attention whore. Took you 4 posts to leave after saying “I am leaving”. And your just back without even a beginning of an excuse? LoL, what a human trash.

Thanks for killing the thread with your useless POShit.

Oh and yes, it’s a useless account I am using.

[Raitzeno]

PS: retal works just fine for lvling, i was farming ultimate on lvl 100, even beast nemesis facetank, with mostly self-found lvl 60-85 gear coz i was too lazy to make a big rearrangement. Died sometimes, but was fine, only really when i was 20-30 below resistance cap. Kinda slow though with low lvl gear. Personally i transitioned to fervor on 65. Get lots of cheap damage from devotions and so many epics drops it’s crazy and some of them will be for retal.

What cult is best for leveling as retaliation, d’you think?

[Rhaelys]

Not only that, but you band together and backpat each other like it’s the right way, as only a small community can.

This fucking community man.

This community really impresses me.

I will leave you guys’ oh so precious thread after this comment. With great pleasure.

Quick update.

So i actually listened what people said a few days ago

Having not read through this thread until just now, it really strikes me as odd that Khaop gets on “this community”'s case for being unwilling to listen to change, when really it just seems like it’s Khaop being close-minded and stubborn when people don’t immediately hail Khaop’s build - posted in another build’s thread - as the best version of a build made ever.

Seriously, if you so desperately want to parade your build around, make your own thread and just link to that. It’s like you just want recognition for one-upping another person’s effort.

Go figure that you end up changing your own build after all of the dust has settled.

[Glimpse]

Hi Fluff i am hitting a wall and unable to kill Ravager of Souls with the build

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/M2gE3mgZ

I die everytime at around 30% of his HP - seems you need more leech and i am trying with the +6% one from Barrowholm for a total of 9% but still isnt enough.

Not sure what is going on but any advice what am i doing wrong?

Update: Killed him on another attempt - had to use a a Cluster at one point though Still i fill i didnt do something right. I have seen Retal warlords claiming to kill ravager without any consumables but i had to chug potions all the time + 1 Cluster + Lfiesteal potion.

[Superfluff]

Hi Fluff i am hitting a wall and unable to kill Ravager of Souls with the build

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/M2gE3mgZ

I die everytime at around 30% of his HP - seems you need more leech and i am trying with the +6% one from Barrowholm for a total of 9% but still isnt enough.

Not sure what is going on but any advice what am i doing wrong?

Update: Killed him on another attempt - had to use a a Cluster at one point though Still i fill i didnt do something right. I have seen Retal warlords claiming to kill ravager without any consumables but i had to chug potions all the time + 1 Cluster + Lfiesteal potion.

Not only you can do it without consumabled but you can even do it with fevered rage ravager and no consumables. Check first ravager kill vid. Looong time ago in aom.

Warlord should be way easier. I cannot see GT well on my phone but you will have to debuff his dmg. You are not using dawnshard showlders or War Cry. Try war cry first. Should be a massive difference already.

Use armor crystals where you can. Like instead of topaz.

Does he crit you? 3k Da unfevered should really be enough.

Overguard lvl 12. Alternate ovarguard and ascension. Keep shiled wall up bound to war cry. Wait one second more after each WC Cd to get wall and wc both. Especially good when he debuffs you.

If you feel lifesteal is not enough use seal of blades instead of might. You still get armor with it so you will be tanky too.

Since he is unfevered and you are using warlord you should have a much easier time. Just try the above and let me know how it goes.

[Glimpse]

Not only you can do it without consumabled but you can even do it with fevered rage ravager and no consumables. Check first ravager kill vid. Looong time ago in aom.

Warlord should be way easier. I cannot see GT well on my phone but you will have to debuff his dmg. You are not using dawnshard showlders or War Cry. Try war cry first. Should be a massive difference already.

Use armor crystals where you can. Like instead of topaz.

Does he crit you? 3k Da unfevered should really be enough.

Overguard lvl 12. Alternate ovarguard and ascension. Keep shiled wall up bound to war cry. Wait one second more after each WC Cd to get wall and wc both. Especially good when he debuffs you.

If you feel lifesteal is not enough use seal of blades instead of might. You still get armor with it so you will be tanky too.

Since he is unfevered and you are using warlord you should have a much easier time. Just try the above and let me know how it goes.

Thanks for the advice - seems i underestimated how much dmg he can dish out - even with 7-8k armor The key was debuffing his dmg as you said - i added Kymon`s augment (-10% dmg reduction) and it did the trick.

Now on to Calagadra!

[Superfluff]

Thanks for the advice - seems i underestimated how much dmg he can dish out - even with 7-8k armor The key was debuffing his dmg as you said - i added Kymon`s augment (-10% dmg reduction) and it did the trick.

Now on to Calagadra!

Would’nt dawnshrd do it better with more redtal too? Callagadra is less dmg but applies more constant pressure so maybe Wc is better there

[Glimpse]

Would’nt dawnshrd do it better with more redtal too? Callagadra is less dmg but applies more constant pressure so maybe Wc is better there

Dont have the Dawnshard shoulders - farmed my ass off in SR but still doesnt show…

Maxed War Cry just for Callagadra however <50% i am dead. I am rotating Ascension and Overguard and still die (and that is with the 6% leech potion).

Her -phy dmg debuff is just insane (i am at constant -16%) - how do you counter that in your setup?

I have seen Warlord Warborn builds around here which killes her without any consumables - but its not a reta build.

[Superfluff]

Dont have the Dawnshard shoulders - farmed my ass off in SR but still doesnt show…

Maxed War Cry just for Callagadra however <50% i am dead. I am rotating Ascension and Overguard and still die (and that is with the 6% leech potion).

Her -phy dmg debuff is just insane (i am at constant -16%) - how do you counter that in your setup?

I have seen Warlord Warborn builds around here which killes her without any consumables - but its not a reta build.

I ve done calla with my shieldbreaker. I’ll try calla today when I return from holiday. Should be easier than breaker

[Glimpse]

I ve done calla with my shieldbreaker. I’ll try calla today when I return from holiday. Should be easier than breaker

Pfew finally did it!

It was really exciting especially those final %!

Key to success was replacing the shield with a good Siegebreaker with a Seal of Blades and 12/12 War Cry.
Also to disengage 1-2 times once she is below 50% when you start to receive huge dmg bursts and all your skills are on CD.

And i was chugging HP/Mana potions all the time - no other way.

Also what do you think of the below tweak (replacing Stoneguard items):

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/d2jYL4rN

[Superfluff]

Pfew finally did it!

It was really exciting especially those final %!

Key to success was replacing the shield with a good Siegebreaker with a Seal of Blades and 12/12 War Cry.
Also to disengage 1-2 times once she is below 50% when you start to receive huge dmg bursts and all your skills are on CD.

And i was chugging HP/Mana potions all the time - no other way.

Also what do you think of the below tweak (replacing Stoneguard items):

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/d2jYL4rN

I’ve just arrived home.

So, no need to gimp your build like that.

I just made some tweaks to components and augments and job done :). Bare in mind this is with all the retal and warlord nerfs;) I also can’t show for now cause this patch is not getting out yet.

I’ll make a bit more tweakes maybe but it was ok. The secred is more armor, phys res a bit and lifesteal. Pretty much it. No major changes

3:15 min kill

[Glimpse]

I’ve just arrived home.

So, no need to gimp your build like that.

I just made some tweaks to components and augments and job done :). Bare in mind this is with all the retal and warlord nerfs;) I also can’t show for now cause this patch is not getting out yet.

I’ll make a bit more tweakes maybe but it was ok. The secred is more armor, phys res a bit and lifesteal. Pretty much it. No major changes

3:15 min kill

Well you are a Wizard Fluff - cant wait till you can show it off.

So i guess patch aint coming this week then :undecided:

[Superfluff]

Well you are a Wizard Fluff - cant wait till you can show it off.

So i guess patch aint coming this week then :undecided:

I should also mention it is tweaked towards Calla on;y. As i did with ravager i didn’t pay attention to resist’s i didn’t need.

I also fucked up my stats and didn’t proc assassin’s mark so it can be better

[Glimpse]

I should also mention it is tweaked towards Calla on;y. As i did with ravager i didn’t pay attention to resist’s i didn’t need.

I also fucked up my stats and didn’t proc assassin’s mark so it can be better

Based on the patch notes - biggest hit seems to be 66% nerf to Markovian Stratagem as well as the full change of Messenger Phy > Fire retal.

Was your previous comment considering these changes?

[Superfluff]

Based on the patch notes - biggest hit seems to be 66% nerf to Markovian Stratagem as well as the full change of Messenger Phy > Fire retal.

Was your previous comment considering these changes?

Not only that but gear too. Thornhide is cut in half. No more 800-1000 flat retal. Mod for RF

Only exceptions seem to have been the shields which is nice.

The build is fine really. It is powerful still but not in such a retarded way.

I’ll be posting the Calla video and SR one at lvl 87. The SR video is a bit boring but i didn’t have patience to go on. Only Bosses like Aleks are any issue and you can gear for that if you want with racial dmg and less dmg from aetherial stuff

[GrimNoobSad]

Super noob here. I’m new to the game and new to the site and have no idea what I’m doing. I’ve seen the ridiculous damage numbers that some builds put out and I have no idea where I’m going wrong.

With this build - https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2EpXk3N I tried to incorporate both a DoT IT build with a phy retaliation build but the numbers I get is super underwhelming. I’m trying to set up a build that can take on Celestials. Any idea what I’m doing wrong?

[Blackpox]

After the patch are there any changes to the build (gear/components/augments)? Are we taking the new nodes in Targo?

[Jahuz]

Hey.
Looks like a very nice build. Want to try it on my fresh lvl 100 warlord.
I have everything except the helm and the shoulders.
What would you recommend as placeholders?

[Superfluff]

Hey.
Looks like a very nice build. Want to try it on my fresh lvl 100 warlord.
I have everything except the helm and the shoulders.
What would you recommend as placeholders?

shoulders: Sentinel or any oof the other two DAwn sholder from the sets

helm: Idk whatever works for you. Even Warborn