Great, thank you, I’ll add your Infiltrator to my BM and Dervish later today, since I’m at work atm. Let’s keep it symmetric 
If there are other builds that you’d like to participate in the exchange just pm. I’d do the same.
I really like this kind of diary post, I feel it quite interesting to compare those stats at different levels (OA/DA vs level, %damage vs level, etc.) during levelling. I don’t know much about the maths behind ARPG but is that something like exponential curve?
My first char of this game was actually an infiltrator but I had some difficulty with that char (died too many times in main campaign) and rerolled a binder later. I think as a complete newbie at that time, the hardest thing to me was to figure out how much OA/DA, armor, HP, %damage, etc. was needed at each level, especially for chars that use ADCtH for sustain like Infiltrator (though it also has two heals).
I did have many gear choices while levelling at that time due to literally picking up all green gears on the ground and check them one-by-one, but I felt that getting more DA/HP instead of OA/%damage could actually worsen the survivability so I was confused as hell. Your diary seems a good guide on how much stats one should aim for at different levels, I wish I could see this at that time.
(though I gave up playing that infiltrator mainly due to fighting Mad Queen without knowing she’s a super boss and died like 30 times and completely lost my confidence on that char :rolleyes:)
Edit: is it possible to make a list of this kind of posts (and beginner build posts ofc) and make it sticky? I know there’s some beginner builds in the compendium, but if you click at that spoiler button there you’ll see a super sparse list with like just 5 or so mastery combinations that have builds, and this is actually somewhat terrifying to beginners because it makes one feel that this game is so hard only very few combinations are viable to beginners, which obviously is untrue. It also makes beginners think that that list is maybe not up to date because there’re just so many builds outside that list. Either way they’ll stop looking at those beginner builds and just turn to those end-game builds, although that’s probably not what they need. (I did this at that time)
I’m not saying that there are too few beginner builds, I’m just suggesting that the list there perhaps needs to change the way of presentation…
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Thanks for your feedback!
I have personally leveled around 15 different characters from 1-85,now 100 and have to admit I died a lot with my first few.
I saw some screenshots of Witch Hunter,which was my first toon-32 deaths on normal…But I was not following guides,just play with 80% pierce and 0% aether and chaos:rolleyes:
Afterthat I improved a lot,in my last 6 or 7 characters I have total of 1 death.Basically from experience learn what to do.With my guides I want to help new players not to go in that hole and keep dying,cause that may ruin their experience and quit.
As for stats,I pay attention mainly for resistances.If you know which enemy deals specific damage or have debuff effect,you can react,but if you’re beginner is better to cover them all.OA is important to hit stuff,if you’re physical or pierce you need more than other damages,cause your RR proc requires Crit and not hit.DA you have to avoid crits at all costs.In act 5 there are some enemies that can one shot crit you like Janaxia and EkketZul,so you have to sustain enough DA,bosses to have 0% crit chance.
As for build compendium Malawiglenn had the idea at the time,but it was not realized.Is really good to have easier access than official Compendium.I intend to create more guides in future,if you have ideas or feedback,please let me know:)
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Exactly, I asked moderators if we could have a specific “beginner builds & guides” thread as sticky but the answer was “no, forum will be too cluttered” or something like that.
You must be a very good player to finish your first playthrough with only 32 deaths with 0% aether/chaos resists because compared to 80% they do 5x damage to you 
Yeah I knew resists and those stats are important because I saw people saying that in many posts, but I still didn’t know how much was enough for that level and worried a lot at that time like, “Is my OA enough? Is 6% crit chance big or not? Maybe %damage is also too low? Should I get more ADCtH or more %damage or more HP or more DA to increase survivability???”
Resists are obvious because you can just cap them, for DA not getting crits from bosses is a good indicator, but stats like OA/HP/%damage are more difficult to tell, that’s why I think seeing the actual numbers from your diary can be really helpful. It allows people to compare and find out like “okay so at this level I already have higher %damage than the guide, but OA is much lower, so maybe I should try Gear B instead of A, because although A has %damage, B has huge +OA”.
Actually I was speaking 32 deaths in normal.First player ever to be killed by venom stringer…twice in a row:D.I man up and finish 85 with just over 60 deaths combined.
My build is more of a comparison than must.I level strictly self found,every player will find different gear.Actually they should find better,cause I am speed leveling and also not farming dungeons often.Only BoC if I am underleveled.
the post is missing the grimtools link for the build with the silver sentinel set, the budget infiltrator first link is a link to this forum post
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Thanks,it’s corrected now.
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Nery, this format is outstanding for new players like myself. I had just read a thread this morning (which you made an appearance in) that shared my feelings on the lack of early character detail a majority of the build guides lack - which are the details you have here. The gear progression, including examples of stat priorities and MI affixes, as well as class skill priorities and weights, are information that is often neglected.
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Thanks,I appreciate your comment! If you have any questions,ask.
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have been really enjoying this build a lot. much appreciate the guide.
is the cadence build you have linked by veretragna still relevant and what to aim for for end game at this stage?
The cadence build is Blademaster, in the same thread you have the infiltrator version.
sorry, dont know all the skills yet. i mean more, is that build thread that is linked still the high end build to go for ultimately from the budget version?
You can find more infiltrators here Build Compendium X (Forgotten Gods) and this [1.1.2.5] Chillstrifes Infiltrator on medium budget-mostly blues is kinda like your “first goal” build
yes i am aware, also not what i was asking.
I didn’t know that, some are not aware of the build compendium 
and you can see it this way, if a build is posted there its still “viable”.
I am not aware of any new item or change to veres 1.1.1.2 infiltrator.
Let me be more specific. Is the deathmarked inquis linked here still the end game goal for this?
Not is it viable, but is it still the main thing to aim for as i’m already running the budget version and looking to aim towards the high end version, just want to know if thats the one Nery recommends to go for still as the “final goal”
But i see now youve also been editing your comments with more info after my replies, so i take it thats a yes. Thank you
Perhaps someone is working on an updated version or not. Meanwhile, just the deathmarked infiltrator by vere as your “goal build”. Remember that the build was made with the limitation/restriction: “no green items” so perhaps one could make it a bit more powerful with some dope greens like Kuba pants for +3 Lethal assault, and some dope green boots for slow res. The reason why those two purple legs and boots were used is because they provide slow and stun res without the builder having to rely on fancy green affixes.
Thanks for the additional info, will keep that in mind!