No. But Iām also ignoring phys res debuffs. Letās assume -40 phys res debuff has been applied on the aforementioned cabalist
(13k - 1800) * (1.1) = 12,320 damage <ā THATāS what iām scared of
EDIT: In reference to your āmultiple 5-6k hitsāā¦
(5000 - 1800) * 0.7 = ~2200.
Yeah, whatever. Iāll heal that up immediately.
I agree that against a very heavy single hit %physical resistance is better. But Iām more concerned by being chain-hit with 5-6k hits while other monsters cast skill disruption, stuns and so on. and you stand in DoT pools up to your knees. At least that is what killed me in GD not a single hit that I can easily dodge. To each his own I guess.
Forgot about life leech resistance?
Mate, I feel like we are arguing about the same thing. Iāve always made the claim that armor is great for negating a barrage of smaller hits.
My point to @BOG has always been that armor isnāt necessarily the only for of damage mitigation against such sources, and that he is myopically focused on it, which has led him to trivialize the very vital function of phys res.
I. Love. Armor.
Iāll stack that shit all day if I could. But it is a balance
If my adcth is high enough, or if Iām playing a darkoneās cabalist, who tf cares about armor or phys res?
I have 15 - 16khp, 30% damage reduction, 40% adcth, and 22% of my total hp is healed every 0.5s thanks to wendigo totem
If you have access to high enough %physical resistance values then yes. I do agree - go for phys res. So what do you have against 3k and 10%phys res of BOG I dont understand . That is a pretty viable choice too.
Not it isnāt.
Youāve posited the claim that builds donāt need phys res, because armor is the best.
Iām refuting that claim by saying that your armor value is largely irrelevant. You are tanky because of damage reduction from censure + adcth.
Also, 18% adcth on FW is NOTHING compared to 6% adcth on AAR given the fact that it hits 6-7 times a second, and pierce a gazillion things
I think itās gonna be good if moerators can import the comments from the other section here.
So I have to repeat what I wrote in my guide. Armor and physical resistance have different purposes but they have to be teamed in order to feel safe against enemies physical damage.
I personally think that physical resistance often can be more important than shear number of armor. Also Internal trauma bypasses armor, thatās very important!
So on builds with high armor and little physical resistance, youāre prone to both heavy physical hits and internal trauma. Back to you @sir_spanksalot
My issue with it is the fact that he keeps going around making the claim that āphys res isnāt neededā. He calls other caster sets āshitā because ONLY lightās defender can allow a build to get 3k armor.
The entire point Iāve been trying to make is that there IS build diversity.
There are PLENTY of ways to become tanky, and to deal with the constant stream of tiny damage that any character will indubitably be subjected to.
To say that āphys res isnāt as important as armorā is plain wrong, and I donāt want less experienced players to walk away with that misinformation.
EDIT: For the record, my dark oneās ritualist has shit for armor and phys res.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/8NKOg7oN
And itās obviously tanky af
If I had a choice of having 3500 armor and 10% physical resistance vs. 2500 armor and 20% physical resistance I would choose the latter. Cos of Balance ! Iām for balance. Just donāt say armor value is āirrelevantā. Which is not true
Iāve never once made the claim armor is irrelevant! I think youāre looking at the exchange between BOG and me out of context here.
Iām merely refuting his claim that phys res CANāT (edited) BE MORE BENEFICIAL than armor. They BOTH have their uses.
Orly? Iāve started that build from scratch and well-remember timesi havent yet laid my hands on Lightās Defender set and Iron Maidenās Mantle. Back then i had ~2k armour, and felt very squishy, despite having all res overcaps, ADCTH, seal and aura of censureā¦
Since when FW doesnt pierce things? And hit rate isnt actually relevant VS 1-2 enemies, as i recover ~3% HP per tick.
Yeah. Because youāre not capitalizing on your adcth at all. Your damage is absolute garbage.
Do you honestly want to compare the range of FW to the range of AAR?
And hit rate does fucking matter. Itās multiplicative.
Does that really matter when most non-trash enemies charge close, and to those who dont, YOU want to charge close to get use of Aura of Censure and Inquisitorās seal proccing elemental storm (so your damage would actually have an impact)? Sure, AAR range is great to wipe out range trash quickly, but aside from that, it doesnt bring any advantages over forcewave.
And the whole reason for me to start this discussion was to break your claim, that stacking high physical res is MANDATORY for endgame build. It isnt - there ARE builds, who can feel good without stacking it overboard.
and i didnt claimed that phys res is ALWAYS worse than armour. Iāve claimed that itās worse in majority of cases, which makes it not mandatory (though still good if you can get it without sacrificing much).
Um. I never bind seal to ele storm. Thatās a terrible skill to bind it to precisely because of the reason youāve mentioned. And again, Iām telling you you need more DPS to truly benefit from AARās adcth. Believe me, donāt believe me - I dgaf. Iām not the one with the gimped build.
^Please quote me. Demonstrate to me where/when Iāve made this claim. Iāve done no such thing.
In fact.
Maybe I donāt get something Iām not as experienced as you are but could you tell me what to do when Goulish Hunger is on cooldown . It has about 20sec downtime even with 20% cooldown reduction. And losing 18% of physical resistance is huge. Armour has such an advantage that it is permanent.
For example Neryās AAR MH has 41% physical resistance but only when Ghoulish Hunger is active. Otherwise it is only 23% which is not that much more than 10% of BOGās build.
You have enough physical resistance even before Ghoul. Ghoul just amplifies it.
Also itās boost Spear and Ultos healing ability.
For glass cannons, Ghoulish hunger is meant to give you a ācanāt touch thisā window during which you obliterate the biggest threat confronting you, so when itās over, youāre no longer in danger.
My ritualist actually chains Ghoul with things like MoT & bloodthirster, thereby still allowing me to be incredibly resilient even when ghoul is on CD.
Well, i dont have a choice there - nor Widow, nor Alladrahās phoenix can be bound to it. Should i just ignore Alladraās Phoenix andbind elestorm to Storm box? But most enemies charge to melee anywaysā¦