Backer Rewards and DRM-Free Copy

as long as there is lan support and i don’t have to use either galaxy or steam for local multiplayer i’m content…

From what I’ve been hearing it’s always had LAN so I don’t see them taking that out.
The bonus being of course even without galaxy matchmaking if the builds remain congruent and it allows LAN by direct I.P. input the basic function of multiplayer will be painless.

It should be a simple matter of making (if you don’t already have them) contacts interested in LAN’ing, declaring a host, turning on LAN over Internet software (see hamachi), backup of declaring the IP and Port (sometimes computers simply refuse to see one another*, maybe arranging some team speak and you should be good to go.

*I experience it a lot over a friends house, simple single cabled router setup, three computers and it’s like Russian roulette as to who has the unlucky problem connection; direct IP:port is the usual means of bypassing the issue…

and when my digital content of loyalist edition? It takes long?

That’s my question too…

Hello, is there a way to buy Grim Dawn directly from the developers without any 3rd parties shops, like GOG, Steam etc. and load the game through this site?
Or the game will be only awailable through 3rd parties shops?

Well you can buy through the web site, but it uses a third party vendor in order to process the sales and hand out the key.

That saves the devs having to setup and maintaining their own store which makes sense given their company size.

The upside is that the devs get more revenue this way.

If i will buy the game through this site i am going to get DRM-free key?
And with the kay i would load the game from the site, right?
Or i will receive a steam key?
I’ve read this thread and as far as i understand right now Grim Dawn works only through Steam, which is i do not support with his policy.
And developers write that they were not supposed to release the game DRM-free.
I am confused.

They will release a drm free with GoG

You will get two keys, one for Steam and one for the DRM-free version. The DRM-Free version will be distributed by GOG.

I could be wrong, but I’d think you would need a GOG account to download the software.

I’m happy and I write plenty on the forums. You’re just determined to prove that your class is 1% empty instead of 99% full. It’s cool, I’ve fired plenty of people in the past who have that same attitude.

Wait, all it would take is a refund to make you go away? I’m happy to provide it to you.

I will, of course, also need to take your computer, and all other computers in your possession, to ensure that you’re not pirating the game. The height of irony, of course, is that a pirater who wanted to illicitly sell or provide low-cost or free copies of the game to other pirates would behave exactly the way that you have, so I’m sure that you understand my caution.

Thank you, that’s what most of us have been saying since the start of this.

Crate doesn’t care about you, they’re just a big corporation. What’s one more number to them?

Whoops, wait, no they’re not. They’re 10 people working out of Art’s basement, who just happened to put together a kick-ass game that almost all backers are already enjoying. Quit crying and be patient.

I am quite confident that it’s not a language barrier. Entitlement knows no boundaries.

You could always just take up my offer…

Seriously, I thought that they arrested you and your friends in Oregon the other day…

Mods, please delete this post and the one I quote. Thank you.

Have you not read medierra’s posts? The situation here has been resolved correctly. A refund avenue has been offered for those affected that would not want their purchase anymore. Detailed explanations have been given as to how updates and such will be made available to those opting for the DRM-free option. A request has also been made concerning any subsequent discussion in this thread concerning its topic and reason of existence and reason for it to continue to be open for more posts.

Now the personal: So you fired people… and you’d fire him too in a blink. I’d hire him back and offer him your annual salary. By your display of glorious panache in here including the topic on the same topic locked by Zantai in Rants section - that I made a post there just for you but had forgotten my password and just wanted to get it done so made a Birdy post or whatever - I am ready to put my hand in fire if the following isn’t true: I could acquire ALL your business(es) brute force, liquidate EVERY asset besides the properties >> “landmarks” but this term probably doesn’t suit your garbage assets. Then I will give the terrain and infrastructures to a competitor of yours at no charge if they are actually interested in getting the place for free. This operation would be very inexpensive for me - anyway yea the scene comes to mind it’s not about the money it’s about the message. You’d have to start again with 0 ZERO assets believe me and in such, who will you fire then?!! for some time day week month hell years maybe for a dumb that lost his reputation that I bet he didn’t have one to begin with (favorable one). You’re just an idiot causing e-harass proclaiming then he’s got the reigns in hands and fires ppl left and right. I would make sure that the compensation you receive would be a total joke even a fraud when compared to the actual (low lol) amount that your assets are I imagine and am sure worth. Sometimes you hear like “lolol idiots rule the world XD” I can assure you this is not the case, hence my certitude that I can liquidate you in a dozen blinks or so.

I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. You made the right decision.

I think that asteroids are a bigger threat to humanity as a whole than cancer or global warming. Or nanobots… Not to mention the potential that there is a lower energy state somewhere that the universe could spontaneously assume (propagating at light speed from the source point of course), thereby erasing everything (including Grim Dawn) that exists in the current universe.

That wasn’t very nice. And, based upon my 5+ years on this site, I’ve never once noticed a Crate employee (for years was just Medierra anyway) posting under some sort of alias account. Just because somebody doesn’t agree doesn’t mean that it’s not a real person, it just means that it is possible for a real person to disagree with what you’ve said.

Well, in his defense, many of us take Grim Dawn a lot more seriously than a Canadian-inspired group of hoodlums throwing up a bunch of tents in downtown Manhattan. Besides which, they could have at least had the courtesy to their fellow occupiers to do it during the summer or perhaps early fall…November in NYC is quite cold you know.

MODERATORS, can you PM me the reason why still you do not ban this idiot?
or remove his posting prvlge till he gets a brain?

It is a bit much. Thone quotes are from days ago. It has been fixed. Let it go.

Have you not read medierra’s posts? The situation here has been resolved correctly. A refund avenue has been offered for those affected that would not want their purchase anymore. Detailed explanations have been given as to how updates and such will be made available to those opting for the DRM-free option. A request has also been made concerning any subsequent discussion in this thread concerning its topic and reason of existence and reason for it to continue to be open for more posts.

Yeah, I went further down and saw that most of the things I posted had already been posted. Then I saw that I had written a bunch of stuff that was deleted by a mod and got the hint, so I deleted everything else before the ban hammer hit. THEN, I got a nice little personal message from SLR:

concerning the deleted quote sayin youd fire that guy:

Have you not read medierra’s posts? The situation here has been resolved correctly. A refund avenue has been offered for those affected that would not want their purchase anymore. Detailed explanations have been given as to how updates and such will be made available to those opting for the DRM-free option. A request has also been made concerning any subsequent discussion in this thread concerning its topic and reason of existence and reason for it to continue to be open for more posts.

Now the personal: So you fired people… and you’d fire him too in a blink. I’d hire him back and offer him your annual salary. By your display of glorious panache in here including the topic on the same topic locked by Zantai in Rants section - that I made a post there just for you but had forgotten my password and just wanted to get it done so made a Birdy post or whatever - I am ready to put my hand in fire if the following isn’t true: I could acquire ALL your business(es) brute force, liquidate EVERY asset besides the properties >> “landmarks” but this term probably doesn’t suit your garbage assets. Then I will give the terrain and infrastructures to a competitor of yours at no charge if they are actually interested in getting the place for free. This operation would be very inexpensive for me - anyway yea the scene comes to mind it’s not about the money it’s about the message. You’d have to start again with 0 ZERO assets believe me and in such, who will you fire then?!! for some time day week month hell years maybe for a dumb that lost his reputation that I bet he didn’t have one to begin with (favorable one). You’re just an idiot causing e-harass proclaiming then he’s got the reigns in hands and fires ppl left and right. I would make sure that the compensation you receive would be a total joke even a fraud when compared to the actual (low lol) amount that your assets are I imagine and am sure worth. Sometimes you hear like “lolol idiots rule the world XD” I can assure you this is not the case, hence my certitude that I can liquidate you in a dozen blinks or so.

I just posted this random and strange PM here to state that I believe that it would take more than a dozen blinks to liquidate me. Well, unless you meant “liquidate” as in “murder” instead of “buy up all of your assets then give them away to a competitor of mine”. Besides which, I’d just go work for the competitor and make a nice salary from him if that really happened. :slight_smile:

At least you’re interesting and random with your frustrations, some others I’ve seen here recently have been actually a bit crazy I think.

I think that asteroids are a bigger threat to humanity as a whole than cancer or global warming. Or nanobots… Not to mention the potential that there is a lower energy state somewhere that the universe could spontaneously assume (propagating at light speed from the source point of course), thereby erasing everything (including Grim Dawn) that exists in the current universe.

Oh, man, I’m so glad that you quoted taht before it got deleted. I’m actually quite proud of that, I’d bet that most of our posters were unaware of some of the more esoteric doomsday scenarios out there.

He is clearly a crate employee…

I think you’d enjoy reading through the wiki link on the practice of astroturfing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing).
It can be a legitimate concern (estimated 1/3 pf posts generally) for both the community using the forum for information and discussion, as well as for the business that simply may not be able to tell if it is occurring.

I’m not saying he’s not in tinfoil hat territory, it’s something difficult to prove.
Hell with my no account picture and significant role in discussion with infrequent postings the accusation could of just of easily been applied to me.

My point is this, as soon as you start attacking credibility, you drift away from reasoned debate and in doing so discredit yourself equally.
Someone who is astroturfing (usually with the intent of swaying opinions or creating controversy) cannot get around a legitimate concern or reasonable logic without constructively adding to the discussion for the better.

It is not my intent to continue the flame war, if you feel admonished please feel free to seek support from your friends & family; as my only intent was to dissolve the negativity between posters and educate on constructive methods to resolve opinion.
Hopefully it will serve you well in the future and at worst give you something to mull over as to the philosophical nature of legitimacy.

…but back to the game we are all chomping at the bit for & kudos to the poster who used the word vitriol (taught me a word I should use more often).

I’m quite certain I could astroturf a lot more effectively than that; give me some credit. Not there is any reason to at this point now that the only real hostility going on here is between users. Thread has settled down - Crate launches secret astroturfing campaign to piss everyone off again

And on that subject, please don’t make us delete anymore posts. If your post is directed at another person, is hostile and /or doesn’t contain legitimately useful information, it will be deleted. If people keep at this, they will be banned. We’ve been lenient up until now because I realize feelings are running hot but it’s time to stop.

While I appreciate the sentiment, Crate doesn’t need anyone to jump to our defense. We’re practically all grown up and can fend for ourselves if need be.

Please don’t make us ban anyone.

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Was just curious on this as well. Not sure if it’s been mentioned as my butt is to lazy to look through the 35 pages x’D Any Rough Ideas on when the digital Loyalist packs will be released? Not upset or anything, just curious. Not sure how you’re going to do the ‘cosmetic’ portion. I know a cool idea would be to allow other gear that you can currently use to be used as a ‘Skin’ Love the looks of the armor, just I find alot of the ‘final build gear’… You end up so mismatched in looks and glowing, that you literally put a bag of skittles to shame with it’s vibrants, lol

Reason to edit: Durp, I’m a dork.

Virtual Rewards - The items themselves are actually finished but we need to set up a way to distribute them both on and off Steam. We know how it’s going to work on Steam and just need to configure it. How we will get the actual codes to people is a little more complicated. That will have to happen through Humble Store. They actually have a nice system to set up distribution for backer rewards… except we were one of their original customers and first Kickstarters, so our stuff was not originally set up using that system. It’s set up in a more convoluted manner and we’re just going to have to work with them to make sure everything goes out to the right backer tiers. It’s not a real issue, it’s just something that I don’t have time to set up yet. I’ll be handling all this logistical stuff after release. I’m thinking we’ll be able to get this set up within two weeks though, maybe less depending on how things go.