That’s what I thought as well that the steam key was for early access and testing, and the key from Crate was for the final DRM version, seems like we were wrong.
If that is the only option for me to get a GoG key version of Grim Dawn, I do not mind requesting a deactivation of Grim Dawn from Steam. Just a matter of when I can do it, so I can switch out without any major delay or hassle.
Hopefully by then, I will have those in-game goodies too for me to…enjoy. :rolleyes:
I activated the beta key too, though I never ended up playing. Didn’t think the beta would be the same key as release.
That was what it initially said. Just logged in to Humble to see what it says now (emphasis mine)
Thanks for purchasing Grim Dawn Loyalist Edition + Expansion!
The Loyalist Edition of Grim Dawn entitles you to the following:
- Download the full game upon release, direct from us, DRM free or also via Steam and other distribution sites.
- First Grim Dawn expansion when released.
- …
the also definitely makes it sound like we can have both, the end corrects / contradicts that though
The “Grim Dawn Access Key” will be used for installation of the final game if it is not activated on Steam.
I thought the beta key was independent of the final key, I am pretty sure that this had been communicated for a while, so in theory I have not used any Steam keys yet, just beta keys, but that seems to not be really true any more either…
This is what is says on my Humble account:
The Patron Edition of Grim Dawn entitles you to the following:
•Download the full game upon release, direct from us, DRM free or also via Steam and other distribution sites.
•Access to the alpha and beta once available
•Digital download of Grim Dawn original music
•Start the game in style with an exclusive swashbuckler’s coat! (in-game item)
•Enchanted Burrwitch Brew that never runs dry (in-game item). Far from granting an unfair advantage, this vile brew is certain to dull your combat abilities and may induce vomiting.
•Massively stylish George Washington style powdered wig in-game accessory.
•“Crate Story” downloadable PDF that will give you insight into our epic struggle to found a new game studio and create Grim Dawn, from the final days of Iron Lore up to release day.
Please note: The “Grim Dawn Access Key” will be used for installation of the final game if it is not activated on Steam.
The purchase date on mine is April 2011, so I guess I’ll just wait for the GOG release, and hope I’m eligible for one of those keys, then deactivate the steam key and run the DRM version, I hope.
Is there some way to see which key Steam is using (I have multiple) ?
the humble store is very confusing to say the least, if I look at my Grim Dawn key there, not the Steam one it says that it has been redeemed, not sure how because I sure haven’t redeemed it, sent a message to them inquiring as to how it was redeemed.
So… an Erisian then? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism)
Half the fun of being an Erisian is making complete and total sense. 
Because the Adrenalin has worn off from all the previous anxiety and now your body has a chemical deficiency preventing you from getting the sensation of elation and in-trepidation associated with the high of expectation that we are on the very cusp of having it metaphorically in our hot little hands.
Note hands may differ in size.
Illiousintahl is not responsible for damage to property or persons associated with direct application of Hot little hands.
Hot little hands is a trademark of Hot Little Co. all rights reserved.
It is not in conflict with itself logically; the last line refers to the act of activation not claim.
Activation is a step in the process of enabling a product you have claimed and because installation and activation are individual processes after the fact, one is not relatable to the other.
That is to say you cannot use a GOG.com redeem code or humble DRM-free key to activate a game on steam; though technically a company can give you two or more licenses.
One that is for steam and one that is for either or both of the others.
What Medierra has stated is that you will not be getting two software licenses (two games) you will get one game and you will choose, which you receive by either staying on with steam or going with GOG.com DRM Free (which will likely require you to De-activate Grim Dawn on steam [just don’t jump the gun, instead wait for formal instructions on how to accomplish a smooth transition]).
You can probably be angry that the wording implies you will get two licenses, but there is always the counter arguments that the alpha license is a second license or that the packages backed only imply one product, so one product is what you will receive (as there we’re clear dual product backing levels).
Okay, to elaborate:
When I purchased the game from HB, I was convinced that I would also get the DRM-free version. But after purchase, I saw no mention of that DRM-free version on my account page. That is why I contacted HB support for confirmation. If the answer had been that I would only get the Steam key, then I could still have voided my order and received a full refund (according to European law this is possible upto 14 days after my purchase). So the HB support person misled me into not cancelling my purchase right away. That is why I feel that I have the right to a full refund now.
Hello,
I have found my paypal receipt from 2014 November, I distinctly remember that I bought it from Grim Dawn but the seller info is “Humble Bundle Inc”. I think that is expectable, due to payment is processed by HB. But is there a way to verify it?
Also I am, or rather would be, very content if we can somehow invalidate our steam key to get a gog one. Even though steam is more feasible financially over in my country I don’t like the feeling of “renting” games.
Kindest regards
Makes sense - see if they’ll do a refund, if not, email our support and ask for your email to be forwarded to me.
In a train wreck, the train is destroyed and lives are lost. I think that would be an apt metaphore if we had botched development, budgeted poorly and now were closing the company without releasing a game.
Instead we’ve produced a bigger, better game than we originally described and players are generally very pleased with it. What’s happening now is more like a train has suffered a delay reaching the station.
I’m sorry that happened and we’ll try to do better in the future but game development and distribution is complicated and always filled with unexpected challenges, especially when you’re a small team trying to do things you’ve never done before.
We’re working out these issues and hopefully you’ll be arriving at your station shortly with no loss of life.
Thanks. I appreciate your assistance in this.
Thanks! I haven’t touched the STEAM keys yet, so I’ll just wait.
Hmmm, hmmm,… I agree. I’ve always regarded the STEAM option as an extra service, to allow Pre-STEAM backers to partake in the Early Access program. Disactivation of STEAM keys for backers partaking in Early Access seems fair to me. We’ll get what we wanted (DRM-free copy) and still have been able to partake. I’m also pretty sure GoG GD and STEAM GD save files will be interchangable.
There might be another solution, but that depends 100% on STEAM really. Though it’s rarer nowadays, you could often get a STEAM copy by ‘Activating a Non-STEAM product’ on STEAM, using a serial key of e.g. a boxed copy. In this case they might be able to do that with GoG keys. That way you can get the game through two distribution channels, but there are no worries about double copies and key reselling, because the two copies are basically sharing a key. Origin still works this way, for example with Battlefield. I bought Bad Company 2 on STEAM, and the game is now also in my Origin library, though perhaps it’s only because it is also tied to my email ingame.
Does this mean you’ll be going round with a small cart with hot chocolate, or will you do like in Japan and give us a note explaining to our employer why we’re late for work? 
What could have been an hint about the EAccess key being the final one, is that the games were not reset at release (I find this weird, letting beta chars in a final game), no wipe of players’ toons (or achievments, I guess).
This is not a mmo, we are not virtual detectives anyway, we dont need hint to figure it out what we are getting
I’m confused by all of this. I purchased the Loyalist package from here: http://www.grimdawn.com/contribute_buynow01.php, so as far as I know, I bought the Loyalist package directly from Crate Entertainment. But it was Humble Bundle that sent me the confirmation email on my purchase. So who exactly did I buy the game from, and what am I entitled to? Thanks.
You use to be able to get little tubs of icecream on the Shinkansen; I suspect it was to calm noisy children… and with the way they packed those trains I’d call it a Workplace Health & Safety issue (preventing industrial deafness).